Indeed, the intention is not to rely on centralized recycling.

You’d use the artme perhaps, if you need to turn your 3D print into something new: https://youtu.be/BT04glGDjB4

During emergencies, such as the pandemic, access to PPE can become difficult. Providing an open source design for the respirator allows for decentralized manufacturing to take place, mitigating the bottlenecks of centralized production and increasing accessibility. The filtered air provided by the fan is for comfort; it is much more comfortable to receive the flow of air from this mask than using an N95, as your lungs have to do less work. Also, the pressurization means that a perfect fit isn’t required, such as with an N95; for this reason, PAPRas can work more reliably for people with beards, for example.

Plenty of folks are using them regularly and the project is just getting started in building awareness. I am currently making one myself. I was also given some sample filament to try out, and plan to share my experience. If anyone wants to see what people are doing with these, definitely check out the discord…

I’m familiar with the other methods of PET recycling you’ve mentioned, and projects such as Precious Plastic’s or Brothers Make, but as you mention, while they are great methods, they are much more expensive and less accessible to everyone.

awesome thanks!

Hello! For a little while I wasn’t posting to the community open_source_ecology that I created and it looks like the community was removed. It may have even been by me who removed it in an attempt to prevent spammers from using an unmodded board. I am wondering if it can be reopened as now there is news I would like to share with the community and am happy to mod again. Thanks!

This thread is just becoming people arguing about what type of vegan speech is effective and failing to understand the concept of the seriousness with which vegans promote and believe in animal rights. To vegans, animals are individuals and their sentience is respected and taken very seriously.

I can’t speak to “off topic” or “bundled insults” but if something is “off topic” or “bundled with insults” then it can be moderated accordingly.

A lot of vegans who have had enslaved ancestors are still ok with the analogy and a lot of vegans who ancestors in the holocaust are still ok with the holocaust analogy. Since there is a wide spread of people with this very common opinion, if you censor it, you’re ok censoring vegan speech which is hostile to vegans.

I’ve already said - people compare animal agriculture to slavery because we captivate, force impregnate, mutilate, steal their children, and economically exploit animals. We violate their rights for mere taste pleasure because today, in most parts of the world, it isn’t required to do this to them.

People compare it to the holocaust because every year billions are killed, in gas chambers and in abattoirs. They’re led to their deaths packed on top of each other in trucks, breaking their legs on floors of shit, dehydrated, and terrified.

When people say this, it’s not TRYING to get an emotional response, this is just WHAT happens and WHAT you contribute to if you consume animal products. And some people really wish you’d stop and sometimes emotions get in the way and ok, if someone crosses a line, moderate that shit.

It looks like what’s really going to happen here is that because vegans are a minority, even here, the sensibilities of people who get offended by the animal rights point of view is going to blind them to the fact that they’re being incredibly censorious. Enjoy your echo chamber if you want, I guess. Disappointing.

Context matters here when we’re talking about what speech you’re going to outlaw on this platform. You can have whatever opinion you want on whether its ok to exploit a backyard chicken but if you ban someone for this, that’s quite censorious. Why don’t you just say to them what you said here and let the people suss it out.

Forbidding the comparison of animal captivity, forced reproduction and child stealing, and economic exploitation to slavery would be a clear example of indulging a censorious impulse.

I rarely use this comparison personally because it’s subject to this kind of confusion (thinking comparison to human slavery is equating to human slavery). Nevertheless it’s my personal opinion that when you account for the massive scale of the suffering, billions of animals yearly, a comparison of severity can still be drawn, even with any inspecies prejudices about the richness of human lives and experience potential compared to animals.

So it seems you’re automatically defensive about wanting to moderate vegan speech (preempting with "don’t feel personally attacked) and deep down I think you know why.

I understand you’re just trying to make a space where everyone feels welcome. But harrassment policy and other conduct policy should cover people getting out of bounds and requires no vegan specific clause. Making a vegan specific clause is a little hostile.

Unless you are truly aiming to ban people for having the opinion that it’s not ok to not be vegan. That would be tone policey and censorious, in my opinion. If a vegan is actually harassing someone that calls for moderation, but its already a rule to refrain from harassing. If you want to make a rule on harassment and include several examples, and one of them is a vegan example, that would be fine.

It just reminds me of other contentious issues like racial justice or gender issues. Sometimes people didn’t like getting called racist, but do you censor a racial minority because their message is intense and makes someone a little uncomfortable? People have the right to decline interactions that arent going well but they shouldnt expect to always be perfectly comfortable when writing in the public square.

Even though I’m on Facebook, I use it rarely, and I wasn’t even in this particular subgroup where he posted it until he shared the update with me directly 😂. So I totally get ya.

Totally understandable.

Btw in reaponse to your other question about current OSE activities, the team has been heads down building the Seed Eco Home 4. Heres an image from their recent FB post.

The Seed Eco Home project is the one I wanted to post about next

If it isn’t too much trouble, can you tell me the pages with the broken links?

Exactly!

Hello! Great to have you here, sorry for the delay in responding :D

We can talk about:

• Open Hardware Projects (particularly if related to ecological mindset ;))
• Open Software Projects (also particularly if related to ecological mindset)
• How to encourage people to participate in Open Hardware and Open Software Development
• Discussions on starting Open Enterprises and Mass Collaboration Efforts
• Discussions on what it’s like volunteering or working with OSE
• Attempts to replicate or contribute to Global Village Construction Set or Eco Homes and related projects
• Topics related to OSE Guiding Philosophies (Integrated Human, Abundance Economy): https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Category:Guiding_philosophies

Personally, I’m going to try to start posting helpful resources starting with the more developed projects and proceeding to the less developed projects. I know that the way the wiki is, that it can be overwhelming for new people, even though it’s really an amazing resource. I hope to make it less intimidating by helping people understand how to navigate the project.

But certainly by no means must all posts be absolutely directly/officially related to OSE.

Why don’t I gain anything by it?

How is it not helping to remind them where the ice cream came from, since they obviously forgot if they’re complaining about it to a vegan.

And what makes you assume moral superiority? You said yourself that you understand how frustrating it is for us to hear about animals being exploited. That’s where the joke comes from. People unthinkingly doing wrong and expecting us to say nothing.

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And your cry baby wah wah comment is why carnists get the reputation they do.

Depends on what OP means by being mean. I read it as the sometimes sardonic remarks that are almost compelled from us when they want to discuss their carnist lifestyle around us or to us as though we are just gonna be like “you be you”.

And so many people think eating chicken is healthy. Eating chicken is eating disease, filth, and suffering.