Tankies are never in shambles. If Ukraine doesn’t join NATO they’ll say “See, NATO was just using Ukraine” and if Ukraine joins NATO they’ll say “See, NATO is expanding east again”. Tankies are never wrong when it comes to believing their own delusions.

Fox news? FOX NEWS? I guess it makes sense. If you believe Fox News to be credible then you might as well believe Trump wouldn’t blatantly lie about project 2025.

Beat your meat in the missus?

Depends, just the base game or with all the DLCs? The DLCs are some of the best in the series, but the base game is about as enjoyable as fucking a fleshlight with glass shards in it. With the DLC I’d put it just above DS3 because you still need to suffer the base game to play them.

You think immigration is that much of an issue but then lay out right-wing talking points as the issue and offer literally nothing to back them up. And then you act like I’m not asking genuinely and I should give you the stats about things you can’t even properly specify.

I’m going to stick with there’s no actual immigration issue you just don’t want immigrants.

This reads exactly like a list of right-wing talking points, no real numbers and just a bunch of fear mongering.

1% per year is huge

I said less than 1%, you present it as 1%.

By the time someone is born and get into the workforce and look at buying a house the population has gone up ~25%.

Which would also happen if you had high birth rates but somehow right-wing groups tend to promote more births. Why they do it is because the overall population in Europe is in decline. Without immigration and at current birth rates Europe’s population is projected to go down not up.

Yea immigration is an issue depending on how you see it. If you want to keep wages down and house prices up it’s good.

Immigration is not stagnating wages and forcing the cost of living up. Immigration can play a role in that but without you giving any actual numbers I have a hard time blaming immigration for that. You should be asking your government why they’re not addressing stagnating wages and rising cost of living instead of blaming it on immigrants.

If you concerned about increasing wages, having a house, your culture, low crime, less government spending then certain immigration is really bad. People against immigration aren’t usually against a doctor coming from a closely alined friendly country. People against immigration is against how it has become an issue, not immigration in general. People want a say on the matter.

This is literally the “immigrants are ruining our country” argument.

But the stats on immigration. Not just the feels as portrayed by a lot of people on the left show there are significant issues with crime and how it impacts working class people, never mind culture changing drastically. But this isn’t immigration as a whole, this is some immigration.

I love how you said how the left plays on feels and not stats, but I pretty much asked for stats send you’re playing for feels. Not a single number, just a bunch of vague “some immigrants are bad”.

But for a lot of people, even talking about it immediately makes you a Nazi. So people vote for people that don’t treat them like shit for wanting to keep the way of life as is rather than selling out everything in the life for the gain of businesses and the upper class at the expense of themselves.

And this is the crux of the issue. You acknowledge that workers are “selling out everything in the life for the gain of businesses and the upper class at the expense of themselves”, but then instead of blaming the wealthy you blame immigrants? That is literally what right-wing groups want. They take legitimate grievances people have and then instead of pointing at the culprits, who also tend to be their party members, they point at the outsiders, immigrants, and say they’re to blame.

If that’s all you have then I don’t think you have an actual immigration problem, just one propped up by the right wing.

You didn’t explain shit. You linked an image and then essentially said “figure it out yourself”. Nothing you “said” contradicted what I said.

Honestly I wasn’t expecting you to explain anything. I could tell from the first comment that you’re one of those chirping tankies who just shouts talking points and couldn’t defend them even if your life depended on it. So crawl back into whatever hole you came from because you were out of your depth from the very beginning.

Stop with the low effort shit, either explain your point or stfu. I’m not going to decipher your comments.

About as relevant and informative as I imagined it would be.

Go ahead, enlighten me with your infinite wisdom.

I couldn’t care less about your wishes. Editing the comment would mean I care at least a little, but I don’t so I won’t.

I couldn’t care less.

I don’t know if you have a wife but I’m now going to imagine you have a wife. You’re now married. Now I’m going to imagine having consensual sex with your new wife. Now I’m imagining you’re killing your wife because she cheated on you. I guess you’re a murderer now, it’s true because I thought of it. Actually I thought about a lot of way worse things about you but I’m not going to go into detail about all the vile shit you’ve done, I’ll just sum it up as you being the worst human being who has ever lived. Since that’s what I thought it must be true, right?

I think you might’ve missed my point. Policy can be taken as “always as issue” in the same as taxation is “always an issue”, because people will always have opinions on how to do things. But my question was more along the lines of there being an actual problem with the current policy or did people just start complaining about immigration because the right wing complains about immigration.

My experience was that people didn’t really mind immigration until the right wing started complaining how the current policy is bad and we’re letting freeloaders and other questionable individuals in.

Genuine question, is immigration really an issue or just something right-wing tries to prop up as an issue? Where I live the right-wing also campaigned heavily on immigration issue claiming that immigrants are coming and ruining the country. Year after year the average immigration was less than 1% of the entire population and in the special occasion where it went above 1% was when we took in Ukrainian refugees. But right wing kept propping it up until some people started to believe we actually have an immigration issue.

With that I mind I think we should always question whatever right-wing presents because they’re not above making shit up. If some right wing politician says the sky is blue I would get a second opinion before believing it.

At best it proves the concept of gods exists and I doubt anyone disagrees with that, you can’t really argue that a thought can’t exist. What it doesn’t prove is that God exists as some material or immaterial entity and that’s what atheists claim, that there is no existence of any entity that could be considered a god.

Why it doesn’t prove the existence of gods is simple. If the proof is that it exists because we thought it then dragons exist, faeries exist, even flat earth exists because there are people who think it exists. I don’t think I need to bring more examples to show how ridiculous the premise is. Just because we can think of a thing doesn’t mean that thing now exists.

I know that reading comprehension isn’t your strong suite but please do try and come back when you understand what I said before.

This war would’ve never even started if NATO didn’t keep expanding eastwards as Stoltenberg openly admitted

Except NATO isn’t expanding east because NATO wants to expand east. NATO expands east because the countries next to Russia want assurances against Russia. Poland and the Baltics know since MRP that you can’t trust Moscow. Finland and Sweden didn’t join NATO until Russia threatened them. In Ukraine the polling data correlates with Russia’s annexation of Crimea because the month before annexation Ukrainians had no desire to join NATO and the month after annexation majority Ukrainians wanted to join NATO. NATO expansions happen in response to the bullying by Russia. The whole “NATO shouldn’t expand east” is Russian talking point so Russia could continue bullying it’s neighbors. Your link says that exact same thing.

Being easily brainwashed by propaganda is not a sign of having a functioning brain.

You don’t need propaganda to see what shit demands Russia has. Let’s give them a third of Ukraine for a botched invasion and leave the door open for another invasion by not allowing them to join NATO. What sensible demands where Ukraine gains nothing from it.

This war would’ve never even started if Russia hadn’t done a full invasion. And everyone with a brain knows the peace demand from Russia are bullshit. You talk about millions dying but then are willing to subjugate millions under Russian occupation. But I guess when you and your lemmygrad pals believe “Russia did nothing wrong” it’s also pretty easy to believe Russia has every right to fuck over Ukraine.