Even though your links may be valid, they’re not contributing to the conversation in the sense that you didn’t provide any argument.

Do you mean to say lemmy.ml isn’t full of propaganda and I should leárn about media literacy, or you think it might be full of propaganda and that’s why I should learn about media literacy? Or maybe you just wanted to share the links, idk.

Lemmy.ml is full of propaganda in general

I get that you have anger issues or something, but I would really appreciate it if you stopped insulting me.

Maybe it’s a non-issue for you, but it isn’t for me, it’s my country.

Also the election system you have in the US isn’t the same there is in the rest of the world.

I’m not even talking about the oil, because there’s issues beyond the ones that affect the US economy.

My problem with Maduro’s government is exactly that they’re corrupt, and haven’t benefited venexuelans at all. Chavez government was, at the beginning, beneficial, then it defaulted to corruption. The only difference is who’s stealing the money.

I’m a venezuelan and have lived there most of my life. I remember watching Chavez reprehend Diosdado Cabello for being corrupt, but as of now he’s one of the people with most power in Venezuela.

A lot of the times people don’t have an educated view because they din’t have resources to know the impact each candidate could have, as venezuelans are very poor, and in many cases don’t have even internet connection, or let alone a phone.

So yes, I’m concerned about democracy in Venezuela, because regardless of the influence the US may have, we’re still in a corrupt dictatorship.

Where are the real ballot papers then?

What international watch? The government didn’t allow any official international watch. Can you show sources?

https://noticiaalminuto.com/como-funcionan-las-actas-electorales-y-como-verificar-su-autenticidad-en-venezuela/

https://www.laprensagrafica.com/internacional/Como-funcionan-las-actas-electorales-en-Venezuela-y-como-verificar-su-autenticidad-20240731-0083.html

https://ecuadorenvivo.com/blog/2024/08/01/como-funcionan-las-actas-electorales-en-venezuela-y-como-verificar-su-autenticidad/

Just in case you don’t like bbc

The article you sent talks about an advanced voting system, which is very safe, and better than the one in the US, which is true. However, the article also says you can audit it, and doesn’t specify how.

The way to verify results by both sides is comparing a QR code that comes with every ballot paper, which should contain a the number of ballot table, and the votes per candidate that matches the one the government has on their system, as well as a hash about the whole results. If the information was altered in any way, then the hash and digital signature would change.

This is all explained in the second article I sent, that I assume you didn’t bother to read.

So, there is a public way of showing the whole opposition party that the government was right: showing the ballot papers with the correct hashes, digital signatures, and results. The government hasn’t provided such public truth, and as such, they’re assumed to have commited fraud, as ballot papers shown by the opposition show a clear win against the government.

In this website you can see the ballot papers obtained by the opposition:

https://resultadosconvzla.com/

I never said it justified invading the country. I also don’t deny their interest is only economic. I’m only pointing out the article’s lack of coherence with reality, why are you calling me a child?

This article is making it seem like maduro actually won the elections with democracy, and that’s not what happened at all. Yes, the CNE “confirmed the victory of Maduro”, but they’re controlled by the same people in this corrupt government, so that doesn’t prove a thing. People from the votong polls collected the papers that provide information about the votes per political party, and it shows a clear win for the opposition. Both sources provided in this article about the election in venezuela come from the same website, which isn’t exactly clear of bias.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/02/americas/venezuelas-tally-sheets-intl-latam/index.html

https://www.bbc.com/mundo/articles/cjl6j83zwklo

Please take into account maduro forbid Maria Corina Machado from taking part in the election process.

https://elpais.com/america/2024-01-26/el-supremo-de-venezuela-confirma-la-inhabilitacion-de-maria-corina-machado-para-concurrir-en-las-elecciones-presidenciales.html

https://labelyouraxes.com/

I’ll just oh oopsie, a link:

https://andersonexpressinc.com/index.php?page=industries-served

The message makes sense in a weird funny way, it’s not aneurysm.

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This guy tries to push so much propaganda it’s making me sick

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I mean the ban only works with play store versions of the app, so IMO it’s not such a big deal. Feel free to correct me if it is.