Please don’t make assumptions about me, or make it seem like being a centrist is equal to being a nazi - which I am not. I’m also not “just asking question” like you state. Nor am I comfortable with someone in massive position of power doing a nazi salute. But it seems you already know who am I, what I think and what I’m doing. (You don’t know any of those) Im also not white knighting him- where did I do that?

I thought trying to make the point that when making points about Important discussions using logical fallacies isn’t the best way to go about it.

But continue to make assumptions about someone you don’t know and point your anger at the issue at hand at me instead. If you wanted to say I was being a contrarian or this is no place or time to worry about things like that- I would have ceded that, begrudgingly but I would have seen where you were coming from.

Instead you attack me, don’t acknowledge what I was trying to get across. Tell me how much more enlightened you are. God do people spend all day arguing like this online? Is that a great life?

Agree, backdown and concede is all you seem to tolerate.

You’re right I should just get off this thing, stop engaging and go live my IRL life. It’s much better than trying to engage with people on the internet. Thank you for the reminder. I’m going back to growing food, teaching people about food security, natural building and building community in real life. Despite what your wrongly accuse me of, I honestly wish you the best in your life.

Again. Not engaging with what I said, then attempted to clarify. I can understand if you’re upset about what you saw- that’s no reason to come at me.

That’s not it. There’s no reason to shut down. If you can’t even discuss what I’m talking about- how do you ever think you’ll be able to explain it to people who think differently than you. If you don’t debate in good faith - how are you any better than those you accuse of lying and being disingenuous?

It seems to me communicating about stuff like politics and ideology online no one ever wants to secede anything to the person they’re communicating with. Their mind is made up before. How is this helpful discourse to move us out of this place we’ve found ourselves in?

I’ve watched the full video multiple times. Looked at various sides “takes”. Read comments from both sides. Seen some bs on Both sides.

But if you expect me to believe you simply because you say so- or because I’ve gotten downvoted a bunch , I’m sorry Sir- but that’s not how I work. And I hope that that’s not how you judge things either. But if it is, that’s your right and I’ll respect that- just don’t go thinking you’re doing anything different than those on the other side in terms of making points.

Here’s an upvote

Please look back at what I said. Is that a fallacy or not? After letting me know that - you could ask me if I thought it was a nazi salute or not. Instead of just making assumption.

Man I’m not really on the internet very much- but it seems to me people like to debate or just plan argue in bad faith in ways they wouldn’t speak to people face to face.

Enjoy being perennially online, I’ve got stuff to build in the real world….yadayadayada touch grass

This is some poor logic. bandwagon fallacy. I get they aren’t your people- and I’m no fan of Elon as a person either- still you can come up with something better to get him on than, “If these people take it this way, then it must mean it’s true”

How many are in the age range for the draft? It’s not just total population, you can only really count those that are in the age range for army service.

This is great, easy to take in info- thanks for spreading the knowledge

Well I live out in the woods now but when I lived in the city practicing permaculture was all about taking small steps and thinking in systems. I started a compost bucket for the apartment for everyone to fill up. Then I had to learn about compost. Now I didn’t have a lot of space out back so I got a worm bin. Now I was using nature to process my food waste and building a system. Now I had worm casings So in spring I found the one small section of earth I had available to me (2ft x 8 ft) and planted some cucumbers, tomatoes, and squash. The whole time I am learning and trying to understand how these want to interact and how I can expand this system.
Then I found this thing called a “Garden Tower” which grows plants vertically, can rotate on its axis, has a center tube for worms and food scraps as well as a reservoir to collect the excess water. Now I wanted to collect rain water to passively water my little plot and this new garden tower. Next I got some big pots and planted a fig tree and some blueberries.

At this point I had : Produced no waste produced a yield catch and store energy applied self regulation and accepted feedback started small and used small and slow solution Observe and interact Used edges and value the marginal used and valued renewable resources integrated instead of segregated And creatively use and respond to change

IMO its really just about watching nature and seeing how she does it- then working to mimic it. Also a healthy bit of laziness helps as it makes for coming up with creative solutions to make most of the task that need to get done passive (i.e. collecting rain water from the downspout to fill a barrel that then drip waters all your plants using terra cotta watering spikes -blumat if your curious - passively so you never have to worry about forgetting to water your plants.

… then Covid hit- my metal fabrication shop shut down, I took the stimulus check to take a Permaculture Design Course, and took the opportunity to move to as small town in NH and worked at a local community farm. Built a bigger permaculture system at my new place with more knowledge and a bit more space to work with as I worked the farm and took a carpentry job. to learn how to build with wood as opposed to steel. Got chickens to add to the system and cycle nutrients. Did an internship with Ben Faulk of Whole Systems Design. If your looking for someone who is practicing permaculture well - IMO he’s one to check out. Permies.com is a great resource as well. Active forums for all things permaculture as well as homesteading.

Pretty long winded way of saying - Collect your food scraps and start learning how to compost, grow something, anything that will produce something you can eat( its so satisfying), see if you can devise a way to capture some rain water to water your plants, but more importantly - start thinking in natural system - not man-made. Look at how nature does things and see if you can recreate it. Don’t over plan- just experiment and see what happens. It’s not a computer, it’s nature so meticulously planning and over analyzing isn’t going to work. Nature is messy, complex and yet endlessly beautiful if you take the time to observe it.

Inhabit is a good documentary I remember getting on jazzed on a while back.

If you need any more book recommendations or information just message me - I’m not by bookshelf but have acquired some good books over the years. Happy to Help

I modified an acrylic doll case. Drilled a hole in the top and glued filter patch to the top. Had success with just a glass dome as well. Sterilite tub stood up the tall way works as well.

I’m simply talking about fairness. If you had a specific example in regards to Harris I could take that statement serious. No one is claiming throwing anyone in jail. I think that by not taking this seriously and instead creating extreme hypothetical cases your not only not going to be taken seriously- but actually do the cause a disservice. By not honestly engaging and instead being absurd -you’re proving you have no argument and instead would just like to throw ad hominem around to avoid actual constructive conversation. Which is how we deal and figure out how we got here in the first place IMO. Best of luck

Nibiru? Is that you?

So how was this professional Pollster so far off? Claimed Harris win by 3 points and instead Trump won by 13 points. That’s a 16 point swing right there. Days before an election. Honestly, I’d think that was a bit sus from an objective professional pollster too. Now would I then spend time suing her? Prolly not- not unless I thought it was done intentionally, in which case she cast the first stone.

100% when I have them in the case they very much give off a alien vibe.

Takes about 5 months to grow to that point. They will grow towards a light source so one can get them to do all sorts of interesting shapes, patterns ect. Thus the Bonsai part of it.