Thank you. While I’m sure a phone call to all three is warranted, wouldn’t it be a safe bet for those of us in California that both senators will be staunchly opposed?

Can someone more knowledgeable that I say where this bill stands; I know it’s passed the house, but does that mean contacting my congressman is moot? Or will the bill be amended by the senate and need to be voted in the house again?

Let’s agree to simply not tell people what they do and do not need.

I just explained this in the comment you replied to.

You explained how it’s doable when you drive 60 miles, which I admit will be most people most days (12 hours of charging at 5 miles per hour charged.) Average EV has 293 miles of range currently; even if you arrived home with 20% battery remaining and you only wanted to recharge to 80%, that’s (at 5 miles per hour charged) over 25 hours. Empty to full is over 58 hours!

At least once every few months we take a day trip to the nearest “big” city, which is 105 miles away. Typically a Sunday. Leave on a full battery, arrive home nearly empty. 8 hours of charging, and I maybe have enough for the next day. I will run a deficit until the weekend.

Again, I’m certainly not saying that a L2 charger is a must for all people, or even most people. But I would not agree that L1 is enough for most people.

It factually is not.

Factually, it’s not either. Both are statements of opinion, although I’d say saying the word “usually” should have some degree of proof behind it.

My statement of “might be” recognizes that there are many instances that L1 makes sense, and I agree with the video that for those for whom it does shouldn’t needlessly install a 240v outlet. Sounds like you’re among those.

I’d say that, sadly, most EV drivers drive more than 40 miles per day on average, and that the moment you drive more than 60 miles per day you’ll have difficulty recharging to full. Most days, you’ll have no trouble recharging overnight. But if you’re like me, you might take a day trip over 100 miles away a handful of times per year. When that happens, I’d arrive home with very little battery left; am I supposed to have the ability to charge for 50 hours?

30-35 miles, depending on the season.

I think “might be overkill” would be a better title and position than “usually overkill.”

There is absolutely a subset of EV drivers that could get by with a level 1 charger (ignoring time of day rates), but most people would fall behind anytime they drive further than the average number of miles. Sure, taking 10 hours to recharge your Chevy Bolt overnight when you’ve driven 40 miles is doable; 64 hours when you’ve returned home from a longer trip isn’t.

I own a PHEV, and installing a level 2 charge has been one of the best quality of life and financial changes.

I’d go so far as to say Musk donating to a democrat candidate may be done explicitly as a poison pill to reduce support from the base.

It’s a fine line to walk. We do not want to support anyone who freely gets in bed with Musk, but draw too hard a line and we end up with worse (see supporters of Palestine and Biden/Harris/Trump.)

I wouldn’t say I’d be “fine” with them taking the money under any circumstance. But it’s never going to lead me to voting for repugnacans either directly or indirectly through abstaining.

Apple v Epic is like the Trump-Elon fight. Apple, like Trump, does more and lasting damage. Sweeny, like Elon, is somehow even more hate-able.

I don’t want either side to win, I want both sides to lose.

There’s repugnicans everywhere in California. There’s just more Democrats.

I wouldn’t say there are more Republicans in wine country than any other agricultural region in the state. Probably slightly fewer.

The colonies weren’t “allowed” to leave England either, yet here we are.

Would it cause a civil war? Yea. Would California win? Of course not.

Do you think physical distance is keeping the data safely within our borders?

Feels like they are both made up scenarios for rage-bait. In both scenarios, the first two questions are completely relevant and the third is only a problem if you’re already looking for a problem.

I love tech. I even love tech just for tech’s sake.

But if I’m buying a car, I personally want to buy it from a car company, not a tech company.

And you have a population that largely supports the actions of the government.

It’s not the government just doing what it pleases, it’s doing what its population wants it to do.

Say it loud for those in the back, it’s not just the leaders.

Don’t protest. Document.

Make sure to take pictures of the people walking in, and to document the license plates of the RAM trucks and Dodge Chargers in the parking lot.

Guess maybe I fall on the wrong side of that divide. :-)