I’m not arguing that the attempts haven’t been made, I’m saying that the end result, or status quo if you’d prefer, doesn’t align with intent. Intent isn’t irrelevant, but I don’t think it holds as much water as results.
Like @grue@lemmy.world said, communes have and do exist, and some form of communism has existed throughout history, and likely before it. The states we have today though don’t hold up to scrutiny.
I mean they promise violence if they get their shit through so the only option is to challenge them.