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Wow! That is honestly fucking amazing

China’s domestic economy […] is also fiercely competitive, plagued by price wars

Really? Plagued? I thought free market competition was good. The Economist, what of your god, Adam Smith?

Johnson Wan of Jefferies, an investment bank, reckons the main reason Chinese firms are building factories abroad is to avoid tariffs

That’s it. That’s what you’ve got? This guy? A Hong Konger who got a Masters in Stats and immediately started a career with the title “Head of”, got an MBA from London Biz, and went straight back into “Head of” roles for the rest of his career. His “reckoning” is going to stand in for like actual journalism or analysis? Why do people buy this rag?

In June American tariffs were extended to many of the solar products made by Chinese firms in South-East Asia, after the Department of Commerce judged that the factories in question were adding little value beyond final assembly.

Oh man, wait until that judge find out about all the “Made in America” products here. Boy I bet that judge will just be red in the face!

Chinese firms have nearly quadrupled their sales in the global south since 2016, whereas Western firms have grown theirs by only a third

Based.

As recently as 2016 listed American and European firms together generated 15 times the foreign sales of Chinese firms in the global south. That ratio has since shrunk to five. Chinese firms already outsell Japanese ones in the developing world.

That’s a HELL of a steep trend line. I wonder what would happen if it was extrapolated.

That’s literally why Russia launched the invasion of Ukraine - appeasement of the USA failed.

You see, when the USSR demonstrated that the West could not hope to destroy it via military conquest (by beating 80% of all Nazis forces and taking Berlin), the USA formed NATO and staffed it with former Nazi officers and then oversaw Operation Gladio where NATO cultivated, armed, and trained “leave-behind militias” of Nazi-sympathizers to be used against the USSR. NATO established itself as a transnational nuclear military staffed by the most dangerous people in the world and accountable to no nation’s people and no democratic oversight.

Then, when the USSR was dissolved by internal reactionary forces seeking to reestablish liberal class society, NATO began to expand Eastward, just like Napoleon’s army and just like Hitler’s army, except this time they expanded using the new logic of political hegemony instead of military hegemony. They guided the rise of Nazi sympathizers all over Eastern Europe, voting against UN resolutions to condemn the glorification of Nazis, and worked to expand this unaccountable transnational nuclear military to the detriment of shared security globally. They even launched the first ever war for humanitarian causes and bombed Yugoslavia, including with depleted uranium bombs in civilian population centers.

Russia, for its part, invited the USA in to reorganize it’s economy and then suffered some of the worst outcomes seen in peace time, including a drop in life expectancy of 7 years over 7 years of time. But they were liberal capitalists now so they figured they could work with the USA and sought inclusion in NATO. They were rebuffed. They sought mutual security guarantees. They were rebuffed. They sought economic cooperation. They were rebuffed. America kept driving NATO Eastward at every opportunity. Russia eventually had to respond.

And they did. In 2014, after the USA participated in the Maidan coup that elevated the Right Sector faction after years of supporting Nazis in Ukraine, Russia annexed Crimea. It did so in direct response to the USA demonstrating its intent to expand NATO to the Ukraine border with Russia - the same border used by Napoleon and Hitler to invade Russia and kill millions of Russians. The USA had years of push back from Russia, and appeasement, eventually escalating to the annexation, but the USA did not stop. Under Trump the USA overtly armed Ukraine for the first time providing weapons that everyone knew would be used against Russia. The USA escalated. And eventually, Russia needed to escalate further to stop the spread and stop the appeasement. So Russia invaded Ukraine to occupy its border, preventing Ukraine from joining NATO (due to rules about border conflicts), and militarizing the region to prevent further expansion and development of NATO positions.

It is the USA and Western Europe who are the global aggressors and it is the rest of the world who have been appeasing the USA.

America’s stifling of civic freedoms dramatically up since…
… Japanese residents considered threat during WW2… …Nixon didn’t want Blacks and hippies voting…
…politicians and businessmen decide to purge communists across the country…
…the Black Panthers decided to give food to black kids in schools…
…9/11…

When murderers and thieves raise and train watchdogs, what are we supposed to conclude when they bark?

2.6ms by the end of the century. They claim that people might be feeling like the days are getting longer. 2.6ms is not noticeable

When has it not been?

And if I am understanding this correctly, the PCV is the communist party of Venezuela?

Well, as long as those enterprises aren’t in countries that are sanctioning China.

Because it was on Malian soil against Malian military assets that happened to be housing Wagner assets and personnel. You’d think if Ukraine wanted to attack Russia it wouldn’t do so in Mali but instead shore up its failing front line.

We are forced to conclude that Ukraine is spending resources to attack Mali for the same reason Russia is in Mali - because the USA has an interest there. Russia is trying to disrupt that interest and Ukraine is trying to support that interest like the puppet they are.

Don’t forget that monthly job reports are highly inaccurate. They get audited and corrected in October for the 12 months prior. I saw a correction last year for California that showed 90% of jobs created in one month simple didn’t exist.

Don’t you have to cure olives to make them edible?

$400Bn is nothing in the USA, honestly. Japan could fire sale it all, which it won’t, and in the worst case American actors will buy it all up and the market blip will be over in a single day. Someone will make good money on short sales, though.

You know when the best time is to recruit new soldiers and bolster your ranks? It’s not 2 years into conflict that has destroyed multiple armies, undermined your defenses, is currently breaking through your weak spots, and nearly all of your equipment is gone. If you do that, you’re just sending inexperienced troops into situations that get them killed faster.

The downvotes! Libs be maulding!

Downvoters are libs who can’t cope with the end of American hegemony

@mozz@mbin.grits.dev Thanks for this. Sucks you got banned by Lemmygrad. I don’t necessarily blame them, though.

Anyway, I guess you need a refresher on the debate we were having. My position was that the West was deindustrializing and losing economic ground while Russia was growing its industrial base and gaining economic ground. I provided a bunch of sources about German deindustrialization and UK losing steel production and you countered with none of that was important and also Russia was having trouble maintaining their Boeings while under sanctions.

I at-ed you because here we have MORE evidence of deindustrialization of Western Europe and MORE evidence that Russia’s economy is growing and your response is: about aid packages to Ukraine.

What’s the oldest tank Russia is fielding in Ukraine? Just in your understanding. And why?

Russia appears to be fielding T-54s and T-55s which are over 50 years old. Why? Because they have no reason to field more advanced systems against Ukraine because Ukraine hasn’t reached a threat level that requires more advanced systems, and because 50-year-old equipment will eventually just fail from age, like the USA’s Minuteman missile system. It’s better to use old equipment, get rid of it, while still making tactical and strategic gains because it reduces the total cost of the conflict for Russia, it streamlines their supply chains and maintenance once those old systems are gone, and it doesn’t present their enemies with any new battlefield intelligence because everything the West needs to know about those systems were already known.

I think what they might be suggesting is that Lemmygrad banned them. How would we check to see if that’s true?

Ahh, there it is. https://lemmygrad.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=4373640

Yes, he was banned with the reason “debate pervert”

Immediately made me think of pedagogy of the oppressed

Nah. I used to see their comments and now when I view their profile all their comments count is zero and their list of comments all say “removed”