Huh?

They already said they’re Aussies and just fucking around with shit they don’t know about.

Are you trying to ask how I knew they were Aussies when they almost exclusively post to UK and English political subs?

No problem, but we dont really have time for rubber neckers now.

Especially when they just wander into conversations, throw out opinions without actually living here or interacting with Americans and tell us what we need to do to get Americans to vote against trump.

You don’t actually know what’s happening here. Because you live on the literal.other side of the globe.

So as much as your interested in American, UK, pretty much the politics of every other English speaking country that you don’t live in…

Maybe you worry about Aussie politics first?

Or not. I don’t give a fuck

I’m blocking you the literal second I hit send on this.

Because:

we dont really have time for rubber neckers now

Especially when they’re super fucking motivated to convince people the only option is the literal worst option.

Anyone defending genocide isnt a leftist, not a liberal, a “tankie” or anything else.

They’re a fascist who doesn’t want to be called a fascist.

It’s not like people are running around using NK as a straw puppet for why democracy is bad, we all agree they’re just lying about their governmental system.

For future reference, you can click on a username to see post history

Although, I feel like you were just looking for a way to insult me that you don’t think will violate civility rules…

Since we’re asking questions tho:

Why have I noticed most of the accounts saying we have to stay with Biden are from Australians?

It’s just a super weird coincidence I’ve noticed, because I’ve started waking up every morning to a couple pro-Biden replies, and they’re almost always from accounts that live in Australia but comment on American politics a lot

What’s the deal with that?

Go back to saying that?

When has he tried to take it back?

It’s still out there because he meant it.

They’re both true statement.

it’s just I do know there will be people that wanted to vote exclusively Biden who will no longer vote because it wouldn’t be biden

I mean, the DNC isn’t putting a progressive in the race, it’s almost certainly gonna be Kamala if it happens.

If there are some who will only vote for Biden (I doubt it) I just can’t see them not coalescing around the DNCs pick.

Even if they do, it’ll be like 08 PUMA where it turned out to be just an incredibly vocal but tiny group

All the debate did as far as any of that goes is drive home the point that people have been trying to make from the beginning - that he is and always has been a weak and uninspiring candidate at best

And Biden knew it too, it’s why the man who wouldn’t shut up for decades suddenly disappeared from the public eye.

He did less than a tenth of the press conferences as the last two presidents in their first term.

If they wouldn’t have been hiding him, Dem voters would have seen how bad he’s gotten.

Well if the options were an aging doctor or a raving fucking lunatic

Nope.

Hospital is literally full of doctors, it’s just yours refuses to acknowledge anyone else could do this very basic surgery.

Yes, I know the basics of neurology and anatomy. I also know that you’re less likely to focus and use those mental functions if you’re exhausted from travel and sickness,

Did you not watch the interview?

He was back 12 days from the overseas trip before the debate, and Biden contradicted himself by saying it wasn’t a virus and then it was a cold.

Seriously, it’s a good interview, they brought up a lot of tough questions and would repeat when he wouldn’t answer.

My point about his stutter is that people are pretending that he’s far worse than he is because he struggled that night with his speech

But it was far worse than a stutter…

I literally just gave you a 36 year timeline of his public speaking abilities…

and doing fine without any obvious characteristic signs of severe mental decline that are not expected for his age, why should we focus so hard on it?

Because “for his age” is him breaking his own world record for “oldest American president”…

And four years ago it was already a valid concern.

You can see that he’s fine in the ABC interview.

I can not…

The one that I linked for “now” up there?

Like, even if you mean you personally consider that “fine” theres noway that you can think people don’t have a valid reason to question after the interview.

And I will not accept your claim that his stutter was only during his teenage years.

Fine, but I can’t provide links of every single time Biden spoke publicly on video and expect you to watch all of it to verify.

You just need to find one video of Biden stuttering before 2012 when I said it came back. Hell, let’s just say the 2012 video I linked. Give me a timestamp where he’s as bad as he is now and I’ll say I’m wrong.

Those are life-long conditions.

You think it’s literally impossible to overcome a stutter?

I don’t think you understand how common stuttering was back then for kids. Biden got rid of it by fifth grade, completely gone with no trace before he went to college.

Like, it happens now less commonly, but how do you think everyone with a childhood stutter continues to have a stutter? And how is Biden so special his disappeared for 60 years?

The militant Islamist group has dropped a demand that Israel first commit to a permanent ceasefire before signing the agreement, and would allow negotiations to achieve that throughout the six-week first phase, the source told Reuters on condition of anonymity because the talks are private.

Giving Israel what they asked for, and they’ll still turn it down…

I would vote for anyone opposite Trump

So why argue against people trying to get a better candidate?

1. You and everyone else willing to vote for Biden, will vote for any Dem.
2. Some people don’t want trump, but won’t vote Biden.
3. There exist other politicians who can be the Dem nominee.

Conclusion: Sticking with Biden, becomes the worst chance at beating trump.

Don’t worry about anything else, just look at that logic.

Can you find any flaw in it?

But just so you don’t keep asking:

I’m curious, though, who is your candidate?

AOC

But again. All we’re talking about who can beat Trump. And if that logic up there isn’t something you disagree with, let me know. Just stripping this all down to a pure logic thing.

I’m optimistic this will work.

If this was twitter, reddit, or Facebook maybe. Especially if they werent always down voted.

But the chances of that happening on Lemmy is almost zero. It’s just a shit return of investment due to the small userbase and engagement.

It’s honestly what I like best about Lemmy.

Rather than losing money, it’s technically more correct to say that we’re earning less.

The real trick is converting to purchasing power of individuals and showing the trend overtime.

Like the average/median purchasing power of an American year by year. Not just purchasing power of a dollar, but of the average salary.

Edit:

Are down votes because I didn’t mention savings?

Like 50% have less than $500, over a third have less than $100

This functionally isn’t a problem for most so I ignored it considering the focus is on poverty and not how I flation effects the wealthiest.

Despite negative perceptions on the state of the economy, inflation is now much lower than its June 2022 peak of 9.1 percent.

I can never get past economic articles that miss the fundamental issue with “but inflation rates are lower!” card.

Like, the price never went down, it just started increasing faster for a while, and is now slowing down. But it’s still increasing.

Like imagine if you went from 0-60 in 2 seconds in an Uber, so you say “slow down”. So the driver takes 2 more seconds to go from 60-100.

The rate of acceleration slowed down, but the past acceleration doesn’t just magically disappear.

Biden sucks. He really does. But I’m still voting for him, because Trump would be worse

This is what most voters likely to vote Biden say.

But for you, would you say there’s any Dem that you wouldn’t vote for?

Do you think that answer is common among people willing to vote for Biden?

And shouldn’t we run the person who most voters are willing to vote for because Trump is such a threat?

Literally any Dem not named Hilary Clinton…

I used to include Kamala, but honestly I think she’ll do well enough to beat trump. Her biggest criticism is being a prosecutor, but she’s up against trump, she knows how to handle criminals

It’s not even about who I want to be president. I sure as shit don’t want Kamala. I just want trump less.

If I thought sticking my head in the sand would help beat Trump I would.

You do know you’re in a thread about Biden stepping aside, right?

And the question was:

Why Biden instead of any other Dem

And I’m just getting responses about how Biden is better than trump.

Literally nobody here is disagreeing with that.

You’re just making the case that not even Biden supporters can explain why they think he has to be the nominee. At least not a reason that’s not easily disproven.

But it’s not just Biden or trump…

We’re talking about replacing Biden with someone that’s more likely to win the election.

Like, if we run Biden and the polls are right, you know that means trump picks the staff…

Right?

But that fear is hypothetical, we’ve never tried it.

We do know what happened to Jimmy Carter and trump. The last two incumbents that ran for elections with approval numbers similar to Biden.

I just can’t imagine a single person willing to vote Biden but not for any other D nominee.

So I don’t understand how any replacement can be considered worse than Biden.

Where are those “only Biden” voters?

If theryre the same ones that voted against Obama, well, there wasn’t enough to matter back then either.