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  • The example you are giving about fighting back turned out to be in your favor.
    But things could have gone wrong, especially when a whole group would have backed the other guy.
    And by that you are sort of advocating a survival of the fittest which is maybe not a good idea
    when you are small and timid versus some strong guy.
    I believe it is not wrong to involve school personnel when bullying happens.

    In Europe anti bullying policies were implemented years ago. I remember reading that in newspapers.

    Here is an example of a school which has anti-bullying policy :
    https://www.eeb3.eu/app/uploads/2022/03/B3-Anti-bullying-Policy-EN.pdf

    • Our Anti-Bullying Policy is based on the principles that:
    • Each individual must be treated with respect
    • Bullying is never an individual problem, as it degrades the atmosphere at school.
    • Bullying is a problem that can be addressed.
    • All members of the school community (school staff, parents and pupils) are called upon to prevent and
      react against all forms of bullying.
    • All members of the school community must have the opportunity to be listened to, respected and
      supported.

  • The US should improve treatment of mental health issues.
    The US should recover public confidence in its political system.

    The things you have suggested are just distractions away from these two points and won’t fix anything.

    Your point about mental health issues is about the victim being bullied or being avoided by others I guess ?
    If I refuse to buy Nike shoes like all others, and if I decide to wear all black clothes with heavy metal shirts and I prefer to read books rather than talk loud and the rest of my class mates avoid me for reasons, does that mean I need to get therapy ?


  • Hell, no. Don’t put the responsibility on victims to help their bullies/abusers.

    I see. In Europe things are different.
    Here is an example of a school which has anti-bullying policy :
    https://www.eeb3.eu/app/uploads/2022/03/B3-Anti-bullying-Policy-EN.pdf

    • Our Anti-Bullying Policy is based on the principles that:
    • Each individual must be treated with respect
    • Bullying is never an individual problem, as it degrades the atmosphere at school.
    • Bullying is a problem that can be addressed.
    • All members of the school community (school staff, parents and pupils) are called upon to prevent and
      react against all forms of bullying.
    • All members of the school community must have the opportunity to be listened to, respected and
      supported.

    Also, it’s not always a clear cut bully/victim dynamic. My school had a loner gun-loving asocial student. He probably thought he was bullied. In reality he made people, especially the girls, super uncomfortable and he was avoided. No one really made fun of him, never physically attacked him, never pulled pranks on him, just avoided him. Not inviting his friendship is not bullying. He needed professional help.

    Forcing me, for example, to talk to him and pretend to be his friend would have been bad for both of us. He needed counseling/therapy, which I was not and still am not qualified to provide, and I needed safe friends I could trust.

    Okay. That is a lone wolf example, it is not about active bullying.

    I consider bullying to be violent in general.
    Even words can be damaging for some people.
    The whole “boys don’t cry” is a tragedy in my opinion and has done a lot of emotional damage already.

    And reading this today https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_L._Trump#Personal_life I would not be at all
    surprised if Donald Trump would benefit from long time therapy.