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  • Do you have a drivers license, clean driving record, and don’t use drugs. Then City Public Works or Garbage Collection both pay well, have low entry requirements, and provide on the job training for tons of equipment that translates well to a bevy of warehouse and construction positions if you decide to move on afterward.

    If any of the three above are a problem though you might look into a Plumbing or HVAC apprenticeship. These tend to be more flexible on things like drivers licenses, driving record, and even criminal record. It’s basically on the job training for a couple of years until you pass your Journeyman exam. Some places start at min wage until you reach Journeyman, but depending on location (and need) it can be $15-17 starting and goes up to about $1000 per week once you get the Journeyman license. This applies to Electrical and Glaziers as well but they are also quite a bit more dangerous.




  • Two points. First Eugenics has an outsider making breeding choices not the breeders that’s the point of self selecting. Second I don’t think you even conceptually understand theoretic/metaphoric modeling and if you do you are purposely ignoring it for rhetoric benefit. If it’s the former then Wikipedia would vastly simplify any further discussions, if it’s the latter then this discussion need not continue.

    As to the purpose of the satire it’s an absurd mirror to modern life and a thought experiment on the consequences of free breeding without external pressure (see earlier discussion about how intelligence is expensive). It’s also an optimistic and comedic take on NIMH when you take it too further conclusions and comparisons.



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    I think there is a fundamental miscommunication happening here and it’s basis may lay in time. Idiocracy is set 1000 years after 2001. A millennia is evolutionary significant.

    The movie suggests a self selecting breeding program that de-prioritizes intelligence. 100 generations is significant. This would likely result in reduced brain mass and simplified structure. This would be a measurable genetic result.

    Again this isn’t likely due to circumstances I outlined above, but Judge’s model has a basis on different environmental benefits from reality. As he has stated about his satire.


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    Eugenics seeks results, Evolution seeks to understand how we got to where we are (maybe what we could do, CRISPR is pretty damn cool).

    Intelligence (the ability to learn and reason) is based on brain size and composition/structure, both of which have a basis in genetics. It isn’t totally reliant, but it provides the framework.



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    Intelligence is inheritable, brain size is a selective trait. Arguably one of the five defining traits of Homo Sapiens. Repetitive de-prioritization is an environmental pressure as maintaining said size is a significant energy expenditure.

    It isn’t eugenics it’s evolution. If the size doesn’t provide a reproductive benefit it doesn’t continue after a few generations. Ironically our internal special conflicts/predation help to maintain intelligence value.



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    Idiocracy is Satire that ends up being optimistic as the “selectively” bred population seeks out and acts on marginally more intelligent advice for large scale political issues that actually do solve easily determined problems.

    I don’t know that it’s evolutionist message is eugenics. Those that self select to remove from the breeding pool probably shouldn’t be maintained. Darwin awards exist for a reason.

    Edit: Ugh, I just realized Prunebutt is slrpnk. I need to block that instance. Every interaction I’ve had has been bad faith arguments. No I do have the instance block. Why am I seeing his comments?