it can be icky without being immoral.

is there anything a human could do to an animal which you would classify as “rape”?

i doubt it.

you think all humans have rights

i think rights are a fiction. i don’t believe they exist at all.

ok? that doesn’t change the effectiveness of being vegan.

and if done to cattle, it’s a veterinary procedure

they stop producing meat.

meat production increases every year

i’m saying i know how linear time works, so i know that buying meat on a shelf can’t have caused the animal it came from to be killed.

there is not any way to prove such a claim, as you cannot prove a counterfactual.

the person doing the killing is usually paid by someone but most people are neither killing nor paying the killers. they are both paid long before someone walks into a grocery store.

It reduces demand for meat, lowering production

production increases every year.

being vegan doesn’t do anything about those

I didn’t say anything about a medical condition

And paying someone to kill someone/something for you is still killing.

most people don’t do that, either

no, they’re not

artificial insemination is a veterinary procedure. it’s not rape

no one is raping animals

you don’t know what they need. and I seriously doubt they are killing for entertainment. I doubt they kill anything at all.

why would you lie about something so easy to disprove?

all media is propaganda

What pool of voters do you think are gonna be drawn mostly to a green party ticket? It’s not gonna be republican voters

the pool who don’t like war and environmental destruction