Can imagine making 30 k a year and having to pay even 1600 in taxes. This is saying it will increase that much.

    • AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works
      5·
      52 minutes ago

      I just started doing this for federal, not state, and I’m curious what happens.

      I’ll probably owe a little extra fee at EOY, but I’m not worried about that. They’ll have to ask me for this money.

      And then I’ll probably try and get a payment plan. Just deny and delay as long as I can.

      Because why not?

      • limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        101·
        5 hours ago

        The population has been made isolated at the community level. There are very few local groups doing any reaction at all to this.

        And violent reactions which are successful are a group action; it’s very seldom an individual, in any era of history, changed the politics by themselves.

        And as long as there are no impromptu gatherings of significant frequency, there will be very little violence.

        The internet is not a replacement for community driven change which powers all social and political movements, peaceful or not.

        The turning point, if there is one, will be lots of local meetings by the thousands , and not until then. No matter how violent or passive the individuals be

        • Muad'dib@sopuli.xyz
          38·
          4 hours ago

          Americans won’t form violent groups because they’re trapped in the mind prison of nonviolence. They think violence is wrong.

          • limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            51·
            4 hours ago

            There is still a lot of violent potential in all this population, it just needs to be nurtured by a working grassroots movement. And that is broken. Just like you can drive a car with a working motor, that has a busted axle; you cannot lead violent people to do things if there is no place to hook up or meet in person.

            This applies to the people who oppose you as much as you, and I mean anyone. So, the current situation is sort of a stabilizing force at the moment

          • Rhoeri@lemmy.world
            47·
            3 hours ago

            It’s because it IS wrong. Animals resort to violence when they don’t get their way.

      • Rhoeri@lemmy.world
        38·
        3 hours ago

        Maybe it’s because we’re not animals. Had half of this country been educated enough to see what was coming- we wouldn’t be in this mess. Violence will only make it worse.

    • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.worldOP
      252·
      6 hours ago

      Imagine not pursuing all your hobbies and instead opressing minorities and waging war all around the world when you make 100 billion a year. First person to say that is elons interest, and that’s valid, can stand in line behind him at the guillotine.

      • moleverine@lemmy.world
        8·
        3 hours ago

        If I had that kind of money, you’d never hear about me again. I’d just stay quiet and fund a whole lot of charities and scholarships.

  • fnrir@lemmy.world
    301·
    8 hours ago

    Don’t worry. It’ll trickle down… eventually… The cash might be a bit red though… /j

    • bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net
      81·
      8 hours ago

      I feel like these chuds don’t know the difference between trickle and dangle.

      This is dangle down economics, where the less well off are dependent on voluntary charity from the better off.

  • Tezzerets_Tea_Time@lemmy.world
    10·
    8 hours ago

    I love basically losing a month of my income when we’re already barely getting by. Fuck this fucking shithead administration to hell with a rusty whisk.

    • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz
      101·
      11 hours ago

      I am unironically working on an idea where negative money is a normal feature of an Economy which is needs first. Production based on the requirement to fill those needs. There would be no tax money required to support a government and the negative balance is simply a transparent measurement of the cost of life.

      It would eliminate the concept of purchasing power. And i know that sounds insane on premises. Hence i am still working on it. May require more then a few pages.

      Anyway don’t direct skepticism to it yet. Just know that your joke has been a real life math Problem in my head for a few days now.

      • unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml
        41·
        10 hours ago

        Your idea is kind of sound, but it really depends on how you implement the “negative” money.

        You can just choose not to pay off the public debt. That will, effectively, make you print infinite money, and we all know how much corpos like to use and very much abuse inflation. Your idea’d fall quick.

        An alternative is to charge the provider for the service they’re providing, or someone with deep pockets who could. This seems much sounder of a wax to go to me. For example, if someone is building a hotel with 500 rooms, say they have to build an additional 30 apartments meant to house a 4-member family. Or, say you keep the asinine US health insurance system, but for every procedure they charge, they have to make one for free. Who they give it to is chosen by the government. This is effectively a form of “negative” taxation. Shame it’s basically a revive of the feudal-era “Wheat tax”.

  • rational_lib@lemmy.world
    221·
    9 hours ago

    Also you gotta factor in inflation caused by the injection of $4.5 trillion of additional rich guy wealth into the economy. So even a lot of people making over $300k are probably going to be losing out after you factor in inflation caused by others getting more.

  • Rhoeri@lemmy.world
    15·
    3 hours ago

    If everyone collectively stopped paying taxes, this problem gets fixed pretty easily. As it is, I have no plans to pay any more into the Dipshit in Chief fund from this moment forward.

    America will get my money when America can show that it can be responsible with it.

    • yarr@feddit.nl
      5·
      3 hours ago

      This CAN work for a time but eventually they will catch up with you. I know quite a few people that stopped paying, only to get surprised by the IRS years later and owe back taxes, fines and interests. They can make your life hell, put liens on your home, garnish your wages, all kinds of special tortures. If you are serious about this, no joke, I recommend leaving the country and planning on never returning.

        • yarr@feddit.nl
          3·
          3 hours ago

          Sure, just like if everyone voted Democrat you wouldn’t have this problem. If you manage to convince everyone not to pay taxes, I’ll be extremely impressed.

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
    22·
    9 hours ago

    For 30k, one expected to pay 7500/yr taxes, although usually that was diverted by the employer and not noticed as much (other than the standard “why is my pay 465/wk instead of 576/wk?” question).

    This would knock the takehome down by ~$30/wk due to the increased withholding by the employer to cover that 1500.

    And when we look at it from our comfy warm homes, it doesn’t seem like a lot. But, I can confirm from when I was working 3 jobs to support a university habit, that $30 was fucking crushing. I think that’s 2 days a week of food, when every penny is bled out of you already.

    Wanna bet the GqP is looking at it like $30 is nothing, like they’re just skipping the appetizer at the clubhouse one day a week?

    • Feyr@lemmy.world
      1·
      3 hours ago

      Don’t be silly. 30 is not even on the gop radar. No way they’re skipping an appetizer over it

  • Kompressor @lemmy.world
    7·
    8 hours ago

    The ‘Food Web’ of this civilization and many others on this planet make absolutely no fucking sense its morbidly hilarious.