So Ukraine has turned into a shit show with on the one hand Russia and on the other hand the US and EU. It is clear that Ukraine is merely a pawn in their chess game. This is clear to me.

I try to make it clear to my surroundings too but one question keeps coming back to me whenever it comes to peace talks: what about what Ukrainians want? Should they accept a split in their country with Russia seizing captured land?

I noticed that I do not have a clear answer to this and I wanted to see some input from you guys. Peace talks should imo be the goal as it would be the end to a bloody conflict and it would further (even if slightly) reduce risk for a bigger war. But it is also clear that Ukraine is just a pawn in those peace talks and everything will be decided between the US and Russia. Is it realistic to acknowledge Ukrainian interest in this? And if so, to what extent can leftist support said interests?

Thank you in advance for your answers. It might make it easier for me to go against the warmongering that has been going on lately, and to prevent people close to me from falling for it.

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    5 days ago

    Just to clarify, i put “Ukrainian nationalism” in quotation marks because i don’t believe that it is that which it claims to be, not in the broader sense of the national interest and self-determination of the whole of Ukraine. It is a strictly Galician supremacist ideology that is rooted in ethnic hate not just for Russians, Poles, Jews, but also and nowadays mostly directed at other Ukrainians who are considered the “wrong kind” of Ukrainians.

    It cannot possibly represent self-determination when it historically prostrated itself before Nazi Germany, the genociders of slavs, and now before the Western imperialists whose only interest in Ukraine is to plunder, subjugate it and use it as a battering ram against Russia. Ukraine itself is not artificial, but the ethnically and linguistically homogenous Ukraine whose sole national essence is being antithesis of Russia, which is how the Ukrainian project is envisioned by this “Ukrainian nationalism”, is artificial and ahistorical.

    I am very much not blaming all Ukrainians for the crimes of this ideology and this regime, in fact as i have just stated, i think Ukrainians are the primary victims of this ideology and regime which in collusion with western imperialist powers has stolen their self-determination from them.

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      You have very fair points, and I’m 99 percent sure that you didn’t mean what you said literally, but more so the overall sentiment, and I figured this was moreso what you meant.

      I mostly agree.

      I would like to see the Ukrainian SSR come back, but alot of things would have to change first.