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Secretary of State Marco Rubio grew visibly frustrated during an ABC News interview when questioned about the Trump administrationā€™s approach to Russia.

Defending Trumpā€™s push for peace talks with Putin, Rubio insisted negotiations were necessary but admitted the administration didnā€™t know Russiaā€™s demands.

He clashed with host George Stephanopoulos over Trumpā€™s refusal to call Putin a dictator and the U.S. siding with Russia in a recent UN vote.

Rubio also compared Trumpā€™s handling of Ukraine to Bidenā€™s approach to Israel, further escalating tensions.

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    21 hours ago

    Yes, yes, a billion times yes.

    To me, the fundamental problem - the primary reason that it seems so difficult to deal with Trump - is that so many politicians and analysts and commentators are still spproaching issues as if the old rules are still in place, and they quite simply arenā€™t.

    Every time that another analysis or editorial appears that discusses the ā€œfailuresā€ of the Trump administration, since their policies will undermine the original goals of the agency/programs in question, itā€™s ultimately just meaningless noise, since it starts with the patently false presumption that the original goals still count. They donā€™t.

    The Trump administration isnā€™t failing to achieve traditional goals - itā€™s succeeding in achieving an entirely new and different set of goals. And there isnā€™t going to be any meaningful commentary until it focuses on those new goals.

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      18 hours ago

      Just because Trump has different motivations doesnā€™t mean thatā€™s the correct framing for questions. Questions and accusations are more for the audience than trying to get Trump to reconsider why heā€™s doing something, and at least currently that bias toward ā€œhow things were supposed to workā€ still exists in the general public.

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        17 hours ago

        Questions and accusations are more for the audience than trying to get Trump to reconsider why heā€™s doing something

        Iā€™m fully aware of that (and the notion tgat Trump would ever reconsider anything is foolish on its face). And itā€™s for the audience that the politicians and analysts and commentators need to change the context of their analyses.

        and at least currently that bias toward ā€œhow things were supposed to workā€ still exists in the general public.

        And thatā€™s a lot of the problem. The people need to be smacked upside the head with the two-by-four of truth.

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          7 hours ago

          Why on earth would you want to normalize Trumpā€™s motivations? The whole point of taking about things based on those previous frameworks is to make the current events look shocking. If you reframe it according to Trumpā€™s new center, then you get quotes like ā€œthis was expectedā€ or ā€œthis was better than expectedā€ for things that should still shock the audience. Thatā€™s exactly the framing Republicans want this to have so they donā€™t have to answer questions about Trump breaking from our (and their) previous norms.

          Holding the Overton window steady despite Trump obviously not wanting past precedent to mean anything may not be perfectly candid with the audience, but we sure as shit donā€™t want to just take it as given that America is an ally with Russia or antidemocratic moves are to be expected and then feel good when he only does 75% of what we thought he was going to do.

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            Ah. So reporting ā€œTrump is a lying sack of shit who claims to be dismantling agencies in order to cut spending but is actually methodically eliminating every part of the government that serves to limit the abuses the 1% can heap on the rest of the countryā€ is somehow ā€œnormalizingā€ his actions and reporting ā€œTrumpā€™s spending cuts are failing to accomplish as much actual reduction in spending as he promisedā€ somehow is not.

            Got it.