I’m using EndeavourOS with KDE.

The display is correctly oriented when logged in but it doesn’t rotate correctly when I’m logged out.

EDIT: corrected the post. This happens when logged out, locking the screen has it displayed correctly.

  • AnIndefiniteArticle@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    This is why X11 is better. I’d rather have settings like this in a text file that I can copy over to my next machine than have to navigate a UI that will change on a different DE or the next upgrade.

    Backwards compatibility, portability, and text-based interfaces are a virtue.

    X config files aren’t “hacky scripts”, they are fundamentally more powerful, customizable, usable, and future-proof. Xrandr is a powerful and capable interface with applications across the system.

    When Wayland adopts these kinds of powerful interfaces with decades of refinement I’ll switch to it. I don’t want to keep track of whether my DE uses wlroots or gnome or plasma and their independent/redundant/feature-lacking randr alternatives. Randrs should be more fundamental to the display operation than the DE. Wayland is fundamentally hacky and broken.

    Edit: thank you all for the discussion. I’d like to clarify a point. I don’t just want a text file with configuration settings that implement features that I need to beg/bother the devs for. They are likely to have better things to do and it might not be a priority for them. I want access to powerful tools via the configuration files that I can make do pretty much anything if I read the documentation. Xrandr is such a tool. I don’t want setting for a feature that has to be baked into the DE which I have to beg to have implemented and which will be implemented differently across different DEs. I want flexible, dynamic, modular tools.

    • Nibodhika@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      You can’t be this stupid, Wayland also uses a config file, you just have a GUI button to copy the configs from inside your session to the login screen. Or do you think the button recompiles the login screen with a different configuration?

    • narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee
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      2 months ago

      Yeah that difference in configuration definitely makes it so much better, it completely outweighs the fact that Wayland does proper multi-monitor VRR, fractional scaling, HDR and much more.

      • uhN0id@programming.devEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Not OP comment but I had no idea Wayland supported all of that. Thanks for sharing! I really need to leave my Linux bubble more often.

        • doona@aussie.zone
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          2 months ago

          And now you know why it’s so funny to read people on the internet exclaiming that X11 is so much better despite its lack of development…

      • AnIndefiniteArticle@sh.itjust.works
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        2 months ago

        I’ve never needed any of those things.

        I do need to change monitor configurations.

        I once had an old TV that I used as a monitor that had 1027p worth of pixels instead of 1080p. Auto detection tools said it was 1080p. With xrandr I was able to modify the output to 1027p so I didn’t lose the edges of the display to the TV’s broken forced overscan design. Could you do that with Wayland?

        • frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz
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          2 months ago

          Literally yes. And you don’t even need to know the exact pixel resolution of the TV.

          Edit: Here are the problems with you “Wayland isn’t good enough” people.

          First, you don’t use Wayland, so you don’t even know if it’s fixed whatever weird issue you encountered with it before or if it supports a niche use case, for example.

          Second, Wayland won’t get good enough for you until you start using it and reporting bugs. You think X11 was a bed of roses when it first started? Or do you think they bumped the version number 11 times for fun?