I guess we should actually try it first before succumbing to defeatism in advance, no? There’s a lot more of us than there is of them… What is it people say about the 4 Boxes to be used in defense of Liberty:
I guess you’ll just have to vote harder champ! I’m sure if you can just convince everyone to vote harder enough, this time, bloviating about how smart you need to be to engage in “strategic voting”, even when that strategy has been demonstrated to fail, it’ll be different this time! Its not you or the Democrats that need to change. No. It could never be that.
The fact you’re so defensive about this speaks volumes. Your condescension doesn’t change the fact: 90 million people didn’t vote. We could have prevented this, easily, but they couldn’t be bothered…
I can repeat it, but I can’t understand it for you. We had 2 separate candidates. I’m sorry neither swept us off our feet, when everyone warned what was coming. Perfect? Of course not, but still better than the fascism and corruption we’re witnessing as they tear our country and alliances apart…
The only thing you seem interested in repeating is the loss in 2024.
You left 6 million votes on the table thinking you know your ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to strategic voting. You approach to strategic voting took the entire country backwards, and you your brain is too covered in neoliberal earwax to figure out that Democrats did this to themselves and no-amount of strategic voting on the behalf of NYT subscribers is going to convince people to ignore the evidence of their eyes, ears, and lived experience.
Everything you’ve outlined here, its precisely what lost the Democrats the 2024 election. I get that its levels beyond you: but figure it out. You aren’t arguing with me. You are arguing with the 6 million people who found the gaslighting un-convicing; who found the shift to the right unpalatable, who found a pro-genocide candidate candidate acceptable: and your answer is “get over it”.
How many votes did you gather to the cause with this alleged “strategy” in terms of voting? Because the evidence shows that you lost almost 10% of previously Democratic voters with this approach to electoralism.
Billionaires will never allow you to vote away their power.
Never
I guess we should actually try it first before succumbing to defeatism in advance, no? There’s a lot more of us than there is of them… What is it people say about the 4 Boxes to be used in defense of Liberty:
“Please use in that order.”
(That’s a quote from Frederick Douglas)
Exactly. We’ve never actually used our voting privileges. Not really.
Whenever I hear the argument that voting doesn’t do anything, I cringe.
When people show up (not just for presidential elections), shit gets done.
But Muricans are lazy and expect others to do the work for them
Australia has mandatory voting and the mining industry still owns this country.
Just because America makes it cheap to buy an election doesn’t mean it could ever be unaffordable.
I’m not saying that it would solve everything.
But if you look at the areas of this country with higher turnout, you also see better social programs, ect
We suck at doing our part because we’re taught to not care.
You are here.
Oh? Did people show up to vote when we told them how important it was? No? Hmm, then I guess we didn’t actually try the ballot box yet…
I guess you’ll just have to vote harder champ! I’m sure if you can just convince everyone to vote harder enough, this time, bloviating about how smart you need to be to engage in “strategic voting”, even when that strategy has been demonstrated to fail, it’ll be different this time! Its not you or the Democrats that need to change. No. It could never be that.
Any time now. Any time.
The fact you’re so defensive about this speaks volumes. Your condescension doesn’t change the fact: 90 million people didn’t vote. We could have prevented this, easily, but they couldn’t be bothered…
I can repeat it, but I can’t understand it for you. We had 2 separate candidates. I’m sorry neither swept us off our feet, when everyone warned what was coming. Perfect? Of course not, but still better than the fascism and corruption we’re witnessing as they tear our country and alliances apart…
The only thing you seem interested in repeating is the loss in 2024.
You left 6 million votes on the table thinking you know your ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to strategic voting. You approach to strategic voting took the entire country backwards, and you your brain is too covered in neoliberal earwax to figure out that Democrats did this to themselves and no-amount of strategic voting on the behalf of NYT subscribers is going to convince people to ignore the evidence of their eyes, ears, and lived experience.
Everything you’ve outlined here, its precisely what lost the Democrats the 2024 election. I get that its levels beyond you: but figure it out. You aren’t arguing with me. You are arguing with the 6 million people who found the gaslighting un-convicing; who found the shift to the right unpalatable, who found a pro-genocide candidate candidate acceptable: and your answer is “get over it”.
How many votes did you gather to the cause with this alleged “strategy” in terms of voting? Because the evidence shows that you lost almost 10% of previously Democratic voters with this approach to electoralism.
Did you know mining billionaires is a great way to recover stolen power and resources?
Making a note of this for a theoretical speedrun…