Four Gaza protesters in Germany are set for deportations despite objections from an immigration official that none were convicted of crimes.
    • Crotaro@beehaw.org
      5·
      8 days ago

      Hard agree!

      From what I read online, it seems that they may have partaken in criminal offenses (read something about storming a building with improvised weapons), but deporting someone before their trial is due and they have been convicted, is not how it should work in a supposedly-civilised country!

      • SomeLemmyUser@discuss.tchncs.de
        4·
        8 days ago

        Exactly. IMHO they should not be deported at all, but brought before a judge and, if breaking of law is confirmed, put into jail like any other person, deporting someone to a place where they get starved, shot or lynched should not be permitted in a civilized nation, but deported without a trial? This is just plainy not a fair democracy in any kind of sense, not even a rightwing one. This is Willkür

        • Crotaro@beehaw.org
          1·
          2 days ago

          deporting someone to a place where they get starved, shot or lynched should not be permitted in a civilized nation

          You’re talking about the one American student who might get his student visa revoked? Because the other three are EU citizens and would only be banned from entering Germany (still a very harsh punishment and I don’t think justifiable, especially without actual conviction). So they could still freely move in the rest of the Schengen Zone if I understood correctly.

          • SomeLemmyUser@discuss.tchncs.de
            1·
            18 hours ago

            I was talking more in general about turning to the American playbook, deporting Gaza protesters who are often are from precarious countries not strictly theese concrete 4. But deporting a trans person to proto-facist america is also not that nice. We also just deported a left protester to right extremist/ proto-facist Hungary and although a court literally ruled she can not be deported because she will face inhumane prison conditions and psychological torture, the Ausländerbehörde pulled through with it anyway.

  • Lumiluz@slrpnk.netEnglish
    8·
    7 days ago

    “awww shit here we go again”

    (For those who don’t know, the Nazis got their ideas from the US right wing)

  • sqgl@beehaw.org
    7·
    9 days ago

    Soft Paywall.

    Is this protestors who are on tourist, student and temporary visas?

    EDIT: They are not citizens. Paywall bypass..

    I don’t think it is that simple. If we allow these people free speech then we risk setting a precedent for outsiders coming to Germany to support Far-Right rallies. Laws are double-edged.

    When I travel to Asian countries I am warned in my Visa application to not participate in any political activity. I take risks anyhow but have been lucky.

    • SomeLemmyUser@discuss.tchncs.de
      14·
      8 days ago

      So we better repress all political activism because it might be far right? The far right would applaud this concept and wouldn’t need outside supporters if you fight for their cause.

      EDIT: Also most palestinians living here can’t become a permant resident because they would need certification from their state but Germany doesn’t recognize their state as one.

        • SomeLemmyUser@discuss.tchncs.de
          6·
          8 days ago

          Yeah and thats what i meant.

          I didnt assume you want to prevent ALL protest. This would be literally one of the worst dictatorships in existens, few of them actually forbid all and every protest.

          Trying to exclude people without papers from democracy while not giving those people a fair chance to get papers is still the closest thing to racial segregation the international court allows

          Oh wait, international law art.20 Nr. 1 actually sets protests as a universal human right.