Joe Biden will not be the Democratic nominee in Novemberās presidential election, thankfully. He is not withdrawing because heās being held responsible for enabling war crimes against the Palestinian people (though a recent poll does have nearly 40 percent of Americans saying theyāre less likely to vote for him thanks to his handling of the war). Yet itās impossible to extricate the collapse in public faith in the Biden campaign from the āuncommittedā movement for Gaza. They were the first people to refuse him their votes, and defections from within the presidentās base hollowed out his support well in advance of the debate.
The Democrats and their presumptive nominee Kamala Harris are faced with a choice: On the one hand, they can continue Bidenās monstrous support for Netanyahu, the brutal IDF, and Israelās genocide of Palestinians. That would help allow the party to cover for Biden and put a positive spin on a smooth handoff, even though we all know this would mainly benefit the embittered president himself and his small coterie of loyalists. Such a choice would confirm that the institutional rot that allowed the current situation to develop still characterizes the party.
Um, the axis states all continued to exist. They just had a regime change. That is not what Hamas wants.
Iām sorry, but the definition is clear and it encapsulates Hamasā goals entirely.
Now it seems weāve reached a āverbal argumentā where itās just an argument over definitions, which Iām not interested in.
This is where Iām personally going to leave this:
Some people see the 70 -year genocide of the Palestinians as an unspeakable atrocity that plainly justifies violent and non-violent resistance.
Some people want to center the fears of the occupiers in the discussion, and use that to throw up their hands and shut down any action or solution that isnāt on the occupiersā terms.
Itās not āfearsā. Itās 80 years of constant assault with intent to annihilate. The issue isnāt semantics. Itās your refusal to acknowledge the fact that Israel arenāt exactly fighting angels here. Both sides are fighting an existential war. You just think the wrong side is winning and the UN mandate which created Israel, giving it a right to exist, says otherwise.
So weāre just making up serious sounding phrases to try and balance the scales? Which side is bulldozing houses and stealing land? Which side is practicing brutal apartheid? Which side FUCKING BOMBS SCHOOLS AND HOSPITALS?
Jesus fucking Christ get outside of your media bubble every once in awhile.
I suspect that you canāt because you have built a comfortable occupier existence for yourself, so you canāt look at the pile of bodies forming the foundation of your existence.
Iām not justifying anything. Iām explaining reality. It doesnāt matter who is when both sides would if they could. All radical islamists need to do to overcome this critical detail is to stop with the wanting to destroy Israel. Itās that simple. If all Imams proclaimed Israel had a right to exist and Hamas, etc all swore to lay down their arms and obey the edict I would sign up for the UN peacekeeping forces to go arrest all war criminals and force a 2 state solution myself.
I donāt really give a shit if resistance fighters check all the right civility boxes. The occupiers were already given most of the land in 1949, but that just wasnāt enough. Fuck genocidal setters. Fuck false equivalence. Fuck apartheid. The PLO has played the civility game all these years, how has that worked out for them? Israel is an evil and corrupt society (the US is too).
There we go. Now youāre being honest. Appreciate it far more than the disingenuous āoh the humanityā BS.
Iāll just remind you that Israel literally existed for all of a week and the surrounding nations declared war. They werenāt the ones that started all this. Doesnāt make their hands clean ofc, but trying to justify terrorism that way is going to fail too so save your breathe.
Ahhh, of course, we are going to reach for the āAnti-Zionism = Anti- Semitismā defense. For the record, I make common cause with any Jewish people who oppose colonialism and genocide, like these honest and noble folks: https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/
Interesting, I wonder what happened immediately before the state of Israel declared Independence? Funny how you and the other occupiers never want to talk about the Nakba. Funny how you want to talk about declaring independence but not about displacing hundreds of thousands and destroying or colonizing hundreds of villages and towns.
How about this: return all the land that was taken in the Nakba, then we can stop talking about the destruction of the occupier state. Is that civil and fair enough for you? Or was it always about stealing the land from the beginning?
You mean the Palestinian war against a UN mandate? Where again, Palestinians were violent first? I donāt think this is the support you think it is.
Anyways, Iām done. You showed your true goals so thereās no point continuing this debate. Weāll just agree to disagree until it gets settled the hard way.