• cetvrti_magi@lemmy.world
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    Because religion is all about indoctrination. When I came out as atheist my dad said that all my ancestors were Christians and I’m stopping that tradition. I don’t care, if they belived that doesn’t mean that I also have to belive and just because it’s a tradition it doesn’t mean it should continue. He also said that goal of atheism is to make people lose their identity (he and many others in my country think that identity is just religious and natinoal identity, they also think that those two things are same). After that I had to explain to him what is identity, how it’s impossible to lose it and that there is no agenda behind atheism.

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      dad said that all my ancestors were Christians and I’m stopping that tradition

      Well, your dad’s wrong. Most of your ancestors worshiped some other god or not at all. Christianity is just 2000 years young.

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        I said that to him but he doesn’t care because ancestors that lived closer to current time are more important to him.

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          Who said your ancestors actually practiced Christianity? It’s only hearsay, he didn’t talk with his ancestors, they might have been atheist and just kept up appearances for all others. If he just believes whatever he’s told, he’s just a sheep following the wolf. Good on you for thinking for yourself. It’s the start of a beautiful fulfilling life.

          I have nothing against practicing your own religion, you do you, but it should never be forced onto others. That’s brainwashing.

      • Not much of a tradition. The Christianity you might hear from your local minister is very different from the Christianity of the same church, fifty years earlier.

        Religious doctrine is molded with the culture of the time, and recently has been influenced by propaganda efforts.

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      “because tradition” or “because that’s how i was brought up” or any other paraphrasing of “because everyone else is doing it” is the dumbest possible reason for anyone to do anything ever

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        “If everyone walked off a cliff…”

        I agree with you, but peer pressure is real. I hated when grownups pretended it wasn’t.

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          it absolutely is real. and i’d argue that part of growing up is learning to make decisions based on rational consideration. instead of “everyone else is doing it,” like way too many grown ass adults still do

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      Ugh I’m so disgusted by people who automatically value tradition. Haven’t they noticed that people were filthy, uneducated, murderous slavers in the past and only recently have we even thought about evolving out of that? Why in the hell would you assume that the way things have been done in the past must be good. I assume the opposite until I see evidence otherwise. My view is that we need to be investing a better future as far as possible. LOL @ holding on to the mystical grunts of our ape like grandfathers. WTF is the point of that?