This is the first complaint I’ve seen about any of the new Star Trek shows that didn’t use the word “Woke” as a pejorative term. I’m impressed and appreciative of your well-thought-out take on it.
You actually do have some decent points, but I’m still an unabashed fan of the new stuff, especially Discovery/SNW.
It IS different, in all of the ways you describe, but every new trek has been a stylistic departure from the previous ones in some way, shape , or form, and I’ve been taking the plot armor Mary sue-ing as one piece of that. (Something DS9 also has to a degree, but they definitely held to the “difficult moral choices” aspect in spite of it).
I’ve seen a lot of valid criticism lobbed at DSC. Commenter above hit pretty much all the points. It’s just bad writing. The themes are good, production is top notch, the action is OK (every Trek show is different, this one has more action, fine). But once you get over the novelty of the first season, it gets bad real fast, and only gets worse.
Thanks for not just downvoting like everyone else. People take this stuff too personally.
Even in spite of my complaints, I’ll still watch it with the family. I’m just bummed out that the qualities that made Star Trek so endearing are watered down or lost to the changing tastes of a new generation of media consumers and the insufferable corporate assholes who just don’t get it.
or lost to the changing tastes of a new generation of media consumers
This is the part that just baffles me.
I rarely see anything but vitriol for anything anymore and it usually seems almost wholly unwarranted at the levels it’s offered at.
I’m beginning to think it’s not that people actually dislike the stuff that comes out, they’re just so programmed to nitpick EVERYTHING that they don’t remember how to enjoy something without finding fault. Or they don’t want to risk saying they liked something only to have someone call their very right to an opinion in question. Or… I don’t know. It well and truly confuses me.
This is the first complaint I’ve seen about any of the new Star Trek shows that didn’t use the word “Woke” as a pejorative term. I’m impressed and appreciative of your well-thought-out take on it.
You actually do have some decent points, but I’m still an unabashed fan of the new stuff, especially Discovery/SNW.
It IS different, in all of the ways you describe, but every new trek has been a stylistic departure from the previous ones in some way, shape , or form, and I’ve been taking the plot armor Mary sue-ing as one piece of that. (Something DS9 also has to a degree, but they definitely held to the “difficult moral choices” aspect in spite of it).
Thanks for your opinion and insight.
I’ve seen a lot of valid criticism lobbed at DSC. Commenter above hit pretty much all the points. It’s just bad writing. The themes are good, production is top notch, the action is OK (every Trek show is different, this one has more action, fine). But once you get over the novelty of the first season, it gets bad real fast, and only gets worse.
Thanks for not just downvoting like everyone else. People take this stuff too personally.
Even in spite of my complaints, I’ll still watch it with the family. I’m just bummed out that the qualities that made Star Trek so endearing are watered down or lost to the changing tastes of a new generation of media consumers and the insufferable corporate assholes who just don’t get it.
This is the part that just baffles me.
I rarely see anything but vitriol for anything anymore and it usually seems almost wholly unwarranted at the levels it’s offered at.
I’m beginning to think it’s not that people actually dislike the stuff that comes out, they’re just so programmed to nitpick EVERYTHING that they don’t remember how to enjoy something without finding fault. Or they don’t want to risk saying they liked something only to have someone call their very right to an opinion in question. Or… I don’t know. It well and truly confuses me.
People love to whinge. Some of it is warranted but the internet has made it too easy to find readers so there’s way more whinging than needed.