• primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    just because he’s fucked, doesn’t mean he’s gotten any better. doesn’t mean he doesn’t hate women any less. probably resents having to fuck one for his public image.

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      1 month ago

      And I never implied any of that. Just that it’s silly to call someone a thing with a literal meaning as though words don’t matter. And yes he’s not any better off, just different.

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        1 month ago

        brevity, especially in explicitly political messages, matters. nuance WILL be lost, communication has two sides, and sometimes you cannot convey perfect truth, you need to lose a little fidelity. so “JD vance is an incel” is true enough for literal government work.

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          1 month ago

          “JD Vance is a misogynist”

          Brief and accurate. Less confusing. Didn’t need to make up anything untrue or stretch any definitions to something they aren’t.

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            1 month ago

            incel is more poetic and gives more a sense of scale. ‘misogynist’ without elaboration feels smaller, less accurate.

            its a compression issue, dear. sorry.

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              1 month ago

              Ugh yeah I don’t agree that defying definitions of words makes something “poetic”. The fact is that this entire thread indicates the issue, and the upvotes I got indicate I’m not alone

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                I agree, to me “he’s an incel” is weak because to the not-terminally-online vast majority of people it’s easily proven false.

                He’s married and has kids, he’s not any more “involuntarily celibate” than Trump is.