• ಠ_ಠ@infosec.pub
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    3 months ago

    They start with CSAM, move to copyright infringement, and end at censorship of those with opposing views.

    Once such laws and mechanisms are in place all it takes is the right wrong leadership to take it all away to keep us safe.

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      3 months ago

      Once this has been implemented, something worse can be implemented.

      I don’t like these slippery slope arguments. You might as well reduce it to any legislation.
      Once people are allowed to make laws, bad people can make bad laws.
      Which is why we must continue to vote in the right people, not abandon the concept of laws.

      In this case, I don’t doubt that copyright infringement and general censorship are on some people’s agenda.
      But this current proposal is bad enough itself and should be opposed because of that and not because someone might make other, even worse proposals in the future.

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    3 months ago

    Article 10a, which contains the upload moderation plan, states that these technologies would be expected “to detect, prior to transmission, the dissemination of known child sexual abuse material or of new child sexual abuse material.”

    This is what I guessed the other day when a post here didn’t clarify what the censorship meant.

    While I’m not a fan of this stupid regulation, it doesn’t sound like being the armageddon that turns e2ee into ashes.

    (Given that Signal doesn’t like it, I might be wrong though.)

    As long as we trust, say, Signal, it will possibly be able to do the scan without sending a good chunk of the image data that the user is sending. URLs can be hashed before sending it to the scanner.

    The remaining piece for privacy is to use open source and to guarantee that the binaries are free of modification from the original. This problem always existed on the Apple ecosystem btw.

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      3 months ago

      How about the false positives? You want your name permanently associated with child porn because someone fucked up and ruined your life? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/08/googles-scans-private-photos-led-false-accusations-child-abuse

      The whole system is so flawed that it has like 20-25% success rate.

      Or how about this system being adopted for anything else? Guns? Abortion? LGBT related issues? Once something gets implemented, it’s there forever and expansion is inevitable. And each subsequent government will use it for their personal agenda.

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        3 months ago

        They say they the images are merely matched to pre-determined images found on the web. You’re talking about a different scenario where AI detects inappropriate contents in an image.

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          3 months ago

          change one pixel and suddenly it doesn’tmatch. Do the comparison based on similarity instead and now you’re back to false positives

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            3 months ago

            My guess was that this law was going to permit something as simple as pixel matching. Honestly I don’t imagine they can codify in the law something more sophisticated. Companies don’t want false positives either, at the very least due to profits.

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    3 months ago

    EU lawmakers are utter rubbish. Cookie consent spam?? Paper straws and ear sticks?? Non-removable bottle caps?? Invasive KYC laws?? Banning ‘foreign propaganda’ through DNS blacklist?? Propping up failed projects like the ukromaidan regime?? What. The. Hell. They just spam our countries with the worst stupidity they can come up with, all the while infringing upon our rights and wellbeing.

    I voted against joining EU 20 years ago. I guess I was right about that, unfortunately…