Hey sorry if this is wrong forum, but I live in the USA and want to leave because it’s too violent, what country should I move to?
i can only speak for Europe, never been to any other continent, but in Europe i am decently well traveled, if you want something safe and liveable with descent healthcare and you don’t want to learn another language i would suggest some towns in the Netherlands in the urban area around Amsterdam/Rotterdam/Utrecht everybody speaks English, i myself considered moving to Leiden or Delft. look up “not just bikes” on yt for some examples of the living conditions there. one downside is the weather there, it is always windi and thus rather cold most of the times. another downside, although the urban area’s are mostly beautiful the nature is not… there are no hills nothing interesting except for maybe a few trees here and there or some fields and rivers, this is the reason i will probably stay in my home country of Switzerland. another option worth considering but not as safe (but still safe compared to the us) would be Sweden, Denmark maybe Norway. i don’t want to suggest my home country of Switzerland for bias reasons. but there is a reason i still live there.
China.
I don’t think there is a one size fits all answer.
I ask these questions mostly rhetorically, please don’t answer anything that would run the risk of doxing yourself unnecessarily.
Do you speak other languages? Which ones? If not, are you willing to put the effort in to learn?
Do you have any career skills, what are they? If you are highly educated and have specialized skills (especially if you are something like an accomplished scientist) then it is a LOT easier.
What kind of lifestyle do you expect? Do you want something comparable to the USA? Do you want a more agrarian lifestyle?
Do you want to retain US citizenship? If not, some countries can be difficult to naturalize at.
For comparison, I left the US when I was very young and have lived my entire adult life in Japan. It’s not perfect. While I hold out hope that comrades here will make progress (and we do in some areas), we have existed as lapdogs of the USA for a very long time at this point. Would I recommend it to other people? Honestly, depends.
Others have already given you great answers, but I wanted to add some things. I would try to identify particular things you might be interested in, like safety (since you mentioned the US is currently too violent), access to healthcare, education, etc. Then, although they’re frequently imprecise, just to have an idea, I would look for rankings or statistics about those things, such as crime rates, homicides rates, etc.
After that you might have a shorter list of countries that meet your criteria. Then I would try to learn more about what is life like in those countries, learn about their culture, languages they speak, working opportunities, etc. And by then, probably you’d have an even narrower list of countries you’re interested in.
By this point I would start learning about the immigration options for the countries you’re interested in, and see which one fits better with what you can do to move there. Some countries are very open to foreigners, specially if you’re very skilled or have a lot of money, also there are student visas, working-holiday visas, etc. Doing your research very well is crucial in this step, that’s how you avoid being scammed. I believe the most important part is identifying which type of visa is the best for your case, and that you fit the criteria. After that you start the migratory process which has its own set of things to consider (beaurocracy, timing, housing, jobs, language learning, etc.).
Wish you all the best!
Canada is also a neoliberal hell but is less violent, at least most places
Ehh I don’t know about that. Canada is on the decline, it was never great but even our bare bones healthcare system is being stripped and will most likely be privatized in the near future.
Become a sovereign citizen and simply start your own country right where you’re at!
But it moves with you, so you can go to the hospital and say, “our people voted unanimously for free healthcare, even in foreign countries. Please fix my broken arm.”
It’s very hard to get permanent residency outside of your home country unless you’re very skilled, rich, or have relevant ancestry. Were any of your grandparents direct immigrants from another country? You may be able to work that for citizenship, if so. Croatia and Italy go back further, iirc.
*Edit I’d want China or Ireland, personally, but neither may ever be possible for me
Ireland’s housing crisis is one of the worst in Europe right now. The government is extremely neoliberal resulting in crises in all areas, healthcare, policing etc.
I didn’t know it was quite that bad. It just seemed like a nice place, and it’s much easier to be a foreigner in a place you (mostly) know the language in.
Europe (Western, Southern and Northern): similar culture, medium difficulty for migration, same capitalism but 5% better, accepts LGBT (with problems)
Europe (Eastern) and Asia (Central): similar culture, culturally conservative (except the big cities), capitalism is even worse there, liveable if you earn money abroad, Soviet vibes
China: socialist (primary stage), hard to integrate, culturally progressing fights imperialism
Vietnam, Laos: poorer than China, less progressive, still good countries
Well, it really depends on what exactly you’re looking for. Really, the best country to move to is the one where you have a job and a backup lined up. Look around the foreign job market, see if something matches up with your skills. English is a really common language, so sometimes you won’t even need to learn the language to get your foot in the door. You will probably need to learn the language of the country you go to, though.
Be careful though, just because it’s not America doesn’t mean it’s safer, and just because it’s safer now doesn’t mean it’ll be safer later (like of the US coups or invades the country you picked, or any multitude of other events that could make the situation unstable).
I imagine you want somewhere that’s more amenable to you politics as well, so I would go with either Vietnam or China. Cuba is very cool, but sanctions have cut it off enough that it might be difficult to find work with the America-centric skills you have. With Vietnam and China, they aren’t really sanctioned the way Cuba is. You could easily work on most American projects in China, and they probably have domestic equivalent to basically everything we have here. If you want a lot of the benefits of China, but without the great firewall or other minor inconveniences, Vietnam is a nice option. You could also go to Hong Kong or one of the other formerly colonized cities, they have a lot of the benefits of China, with many of the conveniences of the West.
Ultimately, you should do a lot of research. Moving countries is one of the more difficult things a person can do, especially if you want to live there long-term. Research your family history, research the job opportunities (plenty of people will be willing to scam you, and might not even live in the country the claim to. over the internet, anything is possible), research medication (some medication isn’t legal, or is really hard to get, in some parts of the world), and make sure this is really what you want.
Also, if you do move to a foreign country, try to keep your American citizenship (assuming you have one). Even if you don’t want to live in America, and disagree with most everything America does, American citizenship and an American passport are very powerful. As an American, it’s easier to get visas for other countries, border checkpoints are a little bit easier to get through, and American citizenship grants a number of legal protections. Your passport is also your lifeline if you ever need to get out, for some reason. The American consulate in most countries is fairly helpful.
Depends, on a whole lot of things, what languages you can speak, what field you work in, what education you have. Immigrating to another country is a very demanding thing, not to be taken lightly and certainly not an option for the vast majority of people. Safe, wealthy countries will only want to take people that are either very educated/skilled, or those that are willing to put up with horrible conditions and take the worst jobs and positions in their society. It’s a complete toss up if you’re not either of those cases.
West Point, Liberia is a huge improvement over the US
this but unironically
I wonder why it’s like that
I don’t think I understand what you’re going for, but it seems like you mean it as a joke. Can you clarify what you mean?
Probably just trolling, West point is a massive slum, and he’s likely trying to ridicule the notion that there are places outside the US that are better to live in.
Soon enough the U.K won’t be much better because of blood-thirsty knuckledragging racists.
Thankfully y’all don’t get American intervention.
Also when is Feddit gonna get slammed with PPB?