• Andrew@piefed.social
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    28 days ago

    The ‘anti-woke’ stuff is so frustrating. As soon as some youtube grifter labels something as ‘woke’ and their followers start review bombing, it frames all subsequent criticism of a thing: Mainstream outlets are wary of the association, so are kinder to a show that it deserves (which then brings their credibility into question for some people); Star Wars nerds who like anything in the universe start dismissing valid criticism because they assume it’s been made in bad faith (because ‘anti-woke’ sorts don’t always make themselves so obvious and do highjack legitimate concerns); and anyone trying to genuinely point out faults has to preface everything with where they’re coming from (which can get tedious if nothing else).

    Anyway: I don’t have particularly strong opinions about the show but what I disliked about it was that it reminded me of ‘Secret Invasion’ and what I saw of ‘Echo’: it suggests that Disney don’t want to do the traditional ‘Andor’ style of making television, and instead keep with the process of: write + shoot + re-write + reshoot … This rarely works, and ends up with a show that has inconsistent characters (‘Yord’ changes personality about 5 times), inconsistent quality (since sets used for reshoots are typically smaller and less dressed), and inconsistent tone (people liked episode 5, but I’d argue that neck-snaps are too violent compared to the vibe of other episodes, which often seemed aimed at young children).

    Also, there needs to be a moratorium of any characters saying they have a ‘bad feeling about this’ (if anyone says anything like this is S2 of Andor I’ll be devasted)

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        28 days ago

        They’ll be something terrible in it I’m sure. Some awful reddit theory (a character we’ve already met is Cass’s sister, B2 becomes K2) or some cringey bit of fan-service. Disney have had too long to find a way to meddle with it (I don’t even think the post-credits scene in S1 was the writers idea, and suspect it was thrown together when the show was airing to pacify the people who need everything explained and want everything in SW to be reference to itself (even when such things call the timeline into question))

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          28 days ago

          I didn’t mind the last scene. Showing the slave labor behind the building of the empire’s mega weapons is kinda interesting and makes their struggle in the prison factory even more futile feeling.

          That said, I’m also worried that the writers and directors of the first season are gonna have a harder time working without D+ meddling.

          Crossing my fingers in the mean time.