• fosho@lemmy.ca
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    4 months ago

    “bbbbut thuh Dems haven’t done anything to EARN my vote” and other such brain dead takes from ding dongs who don’t understand basic pragmatic logic.

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      4 months ago

      Neither of us can convince someone whose friends had their asses beat by cops at a university protesting Biden’s action. Only Biden can do that, by ending the genocide.

      When dems lose for not doing the things they need to do to get elected, are you going to blame the dems for not winning what should be an easy election by just doing the things the people want him to do, using all the means at his disposal, or are you going to blame every single voter in the US for not voting for a party that shows nothing but contempt for them?

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        I notice a certain slight tendency in your comments to talk about China, implication that aid for Taiwan was “bought” from the US congress by someone, tendency to delve into the details of tariffs and suchlike.

        Quick question for you: If I protest in China against a Chinese policy I don’t agree with, what happens to me?

        (This isn’t a whataboutism – China doing something doesn’t excuse the US police from doing a much milder version of the same thing. I don’t think they should be beating or arresting protestors here either. I’m just curious how universally you apply this concern for protestors who had their asses beat.)

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          Quick question for you: If I protest in China against a Chinese policy I don’t agree with, what happens to me?

          Quick Answer: You can just google “site:scmp.com (or any other english language chinese news site) protestors”

          You could probably find much better data if you googled the chinese word for protestors, but then you’d have to translate the results.

          Even when the government wants to shut down protests, such as in HK, it’s 100x more gentle than the US is. Think of how many people getting run over by cops we saw in 2020. I didn’t see a single child get domed with a pepperball in Hong Kong.

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            4 months ago

            100x more gentle than the US is

            Faaaaascinating

            Also, look at all the happy Uyghurs leaving their re-education camps after the Chinese government helped boost their job opportunities. Sounds great.

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        4 months ago

        Dems lose? We all lose. You people seem to forget you’re fucking everyone. Your feelings don’t matter, outcomes do. If you know Trump wins in this scenario, and you know there may be no more free elections, how does this “force the Dems to learn for next time?” Braindead ideological bullshit. You’re a fucking cult.