Will it be effective?
EDIT: The banning event continues. Please consult the modlog to observe.
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&modId=7121342
If you scroll down to about a day ago, you might be able to observe an emerging behavior from this mod.
EDIT 2: The mod in question moderates a total of 108 Lemmy communities. How deep does this conspiracy run? Is this mod a lost Redditor? More to come!
EDIT 3: The mod has now removed my comment all together, one might assume because it was still receiving upvotes in the 2 hours following my ban. Are there similarities here to Watergate? You be the judge!
Justified ban imo. You weren’t there to discuss veganism as a vegan, you were there for drama. It’s not spam when they make a lot of posts to their own community. Unless the content is hateful, the correct response is to block.
I was never there, I was merely passing through All.
Increasingly I believe communities should be able to hide from All. I step into places without realizing it too. They want an echo bunker, not a public sidewalk
To expand:
c/veganism isn’t actually a place to discuss the merits or news about vegan topics, or recipes.
It’s a place for vegans, and only vegans, to share likeminded opinions on their world view. This is not unique to this community.
Being a non vegan, and sharing a non vegan opinion there is not what they want. They find it offensive, and nearly bannable in general.
Ultimately, that’s ok, it’s their community.
The problem comes in when their posts land on All, where anyone sees it and feels invited to read and comment and vote. (Which I believe they are). So a mechanism to keep them off All would be useful to discourage people “walking by”
Increasingly I believe communities should be able to hide from All.
Definitely
And I would say with such a rule, places shouldn’t have a rule 5 style rule AND be found on All. It should be either or. If you expose yourself to the public (to expand traffic), you.have to be thick skinned enough to handle public banter, which will not align with the community core.
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Well put.
If outsider opinions are nearly always considered “bad faith”, the situation is a systemic issue with the visibility of the group.
The OP literally shows a screenshot of your comment
What I mean to say is I didn’t enjoy a stay. My comment was made in a manner I would have made in any other community that popped up on All, that was serving up terrible meme after terrible meme. I wasn’t there to do anything.
If you were never a member of the community, then you’ve lost nothing from being banned, and the mod was right to decide that your comment wasn’t a good faith contribution from a member of the community.
It’s not spam when they make a lot of posts to their own community.
I disagree. I see this often from lemmynsfw or various meme communities where some users tend to just dump 5-10 or even more threads. Neither Lemmy nor mbin really uses algorithms to prevent communities from showing up more than once, so you’ll always get the full load of those submissions spammed into your feed.
And no, blocking the entire community is not a valid solution when you do not inherently disagree with it.
I’ve been banned for breaking rule 5, which is weird since I’ve never posted in their community.
Have you had impure thoughts about breaking rule 5?
No, but you can bet your bottom dollar I will when I go to bed tonight.
Ahhh no wonder I didn’t see this. I already had Beaver blocked.
It’s funny how many trolls and crazy people are attracted to positions of power, I suspect it’s compensation. That last message says it all. Their user seems to have been nuked, at least in their home instance. Ironic they had to remove the same mod they not only criticized but also continued criticized in their remove mod post unironically. Does this mean they will move back to lemmy.world? Didn’t they move out to lemmy.ml?
Ah, this explains it! Saw I was banned from a community that I’d never posted in and evidently one of the mods is a wanker. Mystery solved :)
But I was assured this only happened on ml instances and .world was a blistering Wild West of ultimate free speech 🤔
(As long as you don’t dislike Nazis, thats what got me banned from the instance)
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meatsplained lmao
I unironically love the terms “meatsplained” and especially “carnist.”
On my next date I’ma say: “I’m a Carnist… RAWR” and then click my teeth. Clear test for taking or leaving.
Corpse munched is a good one. Blood mouth is another. I’ve heard something about cadaver as well, maybe cadaver eater? Can’t remember.
Seriously how fucking old are you? Does that ever work? It’s just so ridiculously childish and funny.
You’re right, I’m honestly embarassed.
Sorry that wasn’t directed at you. The “you” in my rhetorical question was the silly vegan extremists, not you. That was not clear. Go ahead and claim the word and make dinosaur nodes. It makes their silliness even funnier and takes away all their power.
Carnist Bloodmouth sounds like an Ork name.
(edit: this was a stupid thing to say.)
Correction: it was silly, and so I loved it 😂 (Maybe I misunderstood, I just wanted to advocate for it being okay to be silly:-)
Buffy or Firefly?
You’d be surprised how often that happens when people find out you don’t eat meat.
It’s, like, a lot.
oh, good point… OK I won’t do it, thanks for the tip!
It’s also hilarious how they thought they could just ban an instance admin, and when it didn’t work call it abuse.
If you consult the modlog, you can see a point during the hubris at which the mod in question was removed as a mod from the community. It is suspicious, and might suggest they were a mod deemed to be spreading misinformation.
Also they made a post which was being openly hostile to Lemmy.world’s mods, I mean what the fuck?
Yeah that mod was a real piece of work, it’s probably for the best that one of the other mods removed her and her alts from the community, and also is in the process of reversing their malicious actions.
Oh man, I am so happy I blocked that community months ago because I just have no interest in it or their diet.
I’m interested and I’m cutting down on animal sourced food, but they are aggressive, ignorant and overall annoying, so I blocked them some days ago. I’m not sure what their goal is. Gatekeeping veganism so that nobody considers it?
I’m not sure if you saw the recent community update, but things have died down at /c/vegan. Up to you, but posts will probably be leaning more informative and less antagonistic now that the situation has been resolved.
I haven’t seen it, but now I’m curious. Thanks
There are plenty of other spaces where vegans can respond to “plants feel pain” and “but what about lions” a million times a day, but that gets old pretty quick. The goal is to have a space where vegans can just interact amongst themselves, which necessarily requires some degree of gatekeeping
Take the community private? Have Moral purity test for admission?
They thrive on the nonsense.
Then shouldn’t their space be private, so they don’t show up on all? They are begging for downvotes with how nasty their memes are. I understand their point, but i am sure that my understanding is much better reserved for non jerks.
How does one make a private lemmy community?
I don’t know, don’t have an instance. If it’s not just an option to still be federated but to opt out of having community posts being featured in all then maybe they should defederate with all of the other ones so they can post terrible things about the people they hate behind everyone else’s backs. Or they can just accept that when someone (even a mod) posts something antagonistic, it’s going to get down votes.
I seriously doubt that vegan posts showing off durian jerky, or even posts about how long cows could live if the meat industry didn’t slaughter them at peak profit efficiency, would be downvoted that much.
I understand what you’re saying, but I still think they could do without being such assholes about it. But I don’t have to interact with them and blocking is easy, so be it what it is.
this vegan drama is dumb as shit
the top three vegan communities by users are hexbear, .ml, .world
hexbear has news, opinions, questions from a vegan pov
.ml has similar
.world has a lot of shitty memes
if you are looking for a serious vegan comm go to hexbear or ml. if you are looking for shitty memes go to .world
if you are not a vegan and just want to lolpost ‘but bacon is delicious’ keep it to your fucking self
Not worth being near tankies.
Yeah being around tankies just isn’t worth it, also it’s not like you’ll escape this kind of drama there anyway, they likely have drama this bad or worse there.
There is also !vegan@vegantheoryclub.org, their own instance
Which Hamid has made just as bad as beaver did here, but I guess at least he’s transparent about ban hammering and comment removals. He’s insufferable and is the instance mod, not just community mod.
It is starting to look like the only place a vegan community mushroom can grow and flourish is on an even bigger pile of shit. It’s a little crass to say, but it ought to tell you something when the most defederated and blocked instances is where your group hangs out.
I just want to read vegan recipes and see like minded people discuss a topic in a civilized way, you know, like basically every other community.
Yeah I’m not vegan, but if vegans want to be insufferable in vegan spaces I think that’s ok. That’s where it’s supposed to be. If you want to be anti vegan in those spaces you’re an asshole for it
Ok but maybe then you pick a space that isn’t on a open federated social media platform designed for open conversation?
I wondered why I hadn’t seen all this drama, but then I remembered I blocked all the vegan communities right after I joined Lemmy, along with all the trans and gay stuff, and the tankie instances.
I don’t want to see their shit and chances are they don’t want to see mine.
You don;t need to announce your shit out loud, big man.
Now I’m wondering if all the other drama surrounding her was actually her fault…
Good job assassinating your own character, I guess, Beavs.
PSA, stop trying to use the Reddit syntax of /c/vegan, it’s !vegan@lemmy.world. The exclamation mark is what makes it a link. Also please always include the instance the community is hosted on or it will link to different places for different users.
…This would explain my several bans from .ml communities I haven’t posted to lol
Remember DroneRights/PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES?
I got banned for saying I didn’t think the meme was funny.
I legitimately do not care about that, but I do care deeply about how funny Beaver’s tantrum is, so I hope she keeps it up.
It’s funny that she thinks she’s accomplishing anything here but all that’s happening is that she’s eroding her own credibility, especially with those angry memes targeting people who aren’t Vegans and her beef with the Lemmy.world admins.
She’s eroding the credibility of the community she champions as well.
This isn’t the first time a very loud minority ruined things for the rest of their collective.
That’s very true, her behavior is indeed quite harmful towards the community she claims to support and erodes the credibility of their movement. Even though the thing about crazy vegans is largely a stereotype and all vegans are not like that, she is perpetuating that stereotype by her own behavior.
beaver is hilarious
