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    4 months ago

    They need more Bernies Sanders, AOCs… And that katie person… I forget their last name.

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      Katie Porter. Basically a younger Elizabeth Warren (who was taught by Warren no less).

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        If Katie Porter ran, I’d 1000% take a leave of absence at work and work her campaign.

        She is the progressive we need in the White House. I hope she runs in 2028.

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          I’ve said the same thing for AOC and I’ll agree to do the same should Porter run.

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        Katie Porter just got beat. As much as I love her I don’t know why you think she’d be a strong National candidate when she couldn’t win a state race.

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          Well… To be fair there was some shady shit with that race. But put another way, does that mean Schiff would more likely win against Trump than Porter?

          But I tend to agree she’s not quite ready yet.

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          She lost because her party backed Schiff. The party is too heavily involved in picking winners during the party to know if a candidate could win a general.

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            The party did back him, all the more reason she’s not going to be a viable candidate. I’d also point out that just because the party backed him doesn’t negate the fact that the people voted for him.

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              The people who vote for Biden will literally vote for anyone. Whether or not anyone voted for Schiff isn’t that strong of an indicator for the general since voter suppression within the Democratic party is much more severe than in the general.

              The party backing a candidate doesn’t mean they’re the best for the general, you’d think Clinton would’ve demonstrated that pretty clearly. In fact, party establishment picks are so anemic that they need to go out if their way to help prop up extremist GOP candidates to make their own guy look more electable. That’s literally their strategy to avoid supporting populist progressive candidates, to roll the dice with fascism.

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      I want to think that 2024 is the battle of incumbents (ish), and that if Biden wins, 2028 will be our chance to “reset” - and get someone younger than Bernie up to the task.

      If Trump wins, and Project 2025 gets its way, 2028 won’t be happening.

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          oh, sure. Everywhere, vigilance is required against assholes who want to fuck others over. Be they dictators, religious nutjobs, fascists, or combinations thereof. There will always be a Project 2025 waiting in the wings, to various extents.

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        If Biden won in November democrats would take it as confirmation that they can keep doing their pied piper strategy, you’ll end up with the exact same kind of choice. Project 2025 is not going away, so it will always be used to scare democrats into voting neoliberal corporate chosen one. There will be no reset, unfortunately.

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          oh, sure. Everywhere, vigilance is required against assholes who want to fuck others over. Be they dictators, religious nutjobs, fascists, or combinations thereof. There will always be a Project 2025 waiting in the wings, to various extents.

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            Yes, and Democrats don’t want to resist Project 2025 or build a strong institutional defense against it, they want it to always and forever be an immediate danger, so they can leverage it as a threat against Americans if they don’t vote for their Chosen One every election.

            That’s why neoliberals are complicit in the creep of fascism, they stand right up at the line and use it for political expediency but when they fail (like Clinton) it’s catastrophic.