• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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      3 months ago

      Like all things, we have seized it and made it our own. Like how getting Chinese food in an American restaurant only vaguely resembles Chinese cuisine. 💪

      • FellatioHornblower@lemmynsfw.com
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        3 months ago

        Sure, but the Americanized versions of Italian, German, or Chinese foods were made by immigrants adapting their traditional recipes with ingredients they had on hand.

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          3 months ago

          I can’t speak for German or Chinese food, but having been to Italy, a good NYC slice beats anything the Italians have to offer.

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          3 months ago

          Depends on the restaurant, but in general - yes, proper Chinese is rare.

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        3 months ago

        I mean, tomatoes are a fruit native to the Americas, so even though pizza was invented in Italy, its invention is still tied to the America side of the Atlantic in some ways. Pizza has a very interesting past!

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            3 months ago

            I would argue that the modern understanding of pizza in Italy and across the globe is one that includes tomatoes. Things prior to that called pizza would likely not pass as pizza today. And it’s pretty accepted that pizza and tomatoes are very linked. Imo you’re being pedantic.

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              3 months ago

              Guess you never heard of pizza bianca then. Please try not to formulate grand theories before knowing just a sliver of the involved facts, thank you.

              • Cosmos7349@lemmy.world
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                3 months ago

                Arguing that the history of pizza is not deeply intertwined with tomatoes is a pretty weird hill to die on

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      3 months ago

      Fun fact, in many places, soft-serve ice cream is known as “Italian ice cream”.

      What we are seeing here is a slightly botched traditional Italian lunch.

    • IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      You clearly have never had Italian pizza. Not even close.

      Pizza is American unless you want to claim every flatbread is a pizza.