They are down voting you because you are treating all republican voters as if they are a violent mob ready to burn down the country.
It would help if you would stop attacking republicans and stick with the Trump attacks. Most people are aware Trump is garbage, but applying those feelings to half of the american citizens is absurd.
You should go talk to people in your community and you might be shocked that there are Democrats and republicans that are friends, go to church together, work together, etc.
Republicans support Trump they were dead before that but now… Sorry I cannot remotely fathom a good conversation with these people. Trump is just the (current) tip of the iceberg…
Someone took it personal? Are you a brainless crazy Trump-supporter?^^
Don’t worry, I’m living somewhere completely different, it also gets worse here, with people increasingly supporting right-wing-populism. But I’m lucky to not even have remotely such people in my social circle. That’s probably why I have a hard time understanding such idiocracy…
I had rare occasions to (try to) discuss (constructively) with such people (or at least the equivalent here in europe). Honestly it’s a sad experience…
A very long time ago (> 10 years), I had also such experience with rednecks in the USA, which I’m pretty sure today would vote for Trump (maybe even be the spearhead of this kind of idiocracy). And yeah it’s these occasions where I loose faith in humanity. It’s … an … interesting experience, to witness such in-factual stubbornness based on hate and anxiety… I hope we’ll improve society especially with this in mind anytime soon, but I’m not too optimistic when thinking about all the changes that capitalism and technology (related to capitalism, like social-media) brings, and even now still accelerates…
You are frustrated because you went to those groups expecting to change their minds rather than to understand them better. I understand its difficult but I don’t think that means its not worth doing.
No I didn’t really. Although one can always hope, to give them a new perspective (that is less based on hate and anxiety).
It’s more about learning this screwed conception of the world, and the thought-process that e.g. “the elite” (which they ironically support) is against them, making everything worse.
Well and the fact that they make up their own construct of unlogical emotion(mostly negative)-based conspiracies, that even when falsified with simple arguments they can’t seem to get away of them…
I said MAGA energy, you’ve brought the term “Republican Voter” in just now and apparently decided that’s what MAGA energy means… Which is telling.
No I was talking (in my edit) about a phenomena known as “blue shift” in politics where most counts start out with smaller towns (which complete counts first), and rural areas. Then bigger areas and mail in ballots start coming in. So on election night results usually start out red, then have a “blue shift”. That’s the common narrative.
Last election Trump suggested that this was proof of election fraud in the count. So watch for that, and you’ll know whether Trump plans to accept results or push for civil unrest.
…for some reason this has been interpreted by you as saying all Republican voters are violent? I don’t understand why you interpreted it that way.
They are down voting you because you are treating all republican voters as if they are a violent mob ready to burn down the country.
It would help if you would stop attacking republicans and stick with the Trump attacks. Most people are aware Trump is garbage, but applying those feelings to half of the american citizens is absurd.
You should go talk to people in your community and you might be shocked that there are Democrats and republicans that are friends, go to church together, work together, etc.
Republicans support Trump they were dead before that but now… Sorry I cannot remotely fathom a good conversation with these people. Trump is just the (current) tip of the iceberg…
Well I hope you can hide out in your house so you don’t run into any of these crazy people then.
Someone took it personal? Are you a brainless crazy Trump-supporter?^^
Don’t worry, I’m living somewhere completely different, it also gets worse here, with people increasingly supporting right-wing-populism. But I’m lucky to not even have remotely such people in my social circle. That’s probably why I have a hard time understanding such idiocracy…
I’m not sure why youd have trouble understanding echo chambers since you just described being part of one.
I had rare occasions to (try to) discuss (constructively) with such people (or at least the equivalent here in europe). Honestly it’s a sad experience…
A very long time ago (> 10 years), I had also such experience with rednecks in the USA, which I’m pretty sure today would vote for Trump (maybe even be the spearhead of this kind of idiocracy). And yeah it’s these occasions where I loose faith in humanity. It’s … an … interesting experience, to witness such in-factual stubbornness based on hate and anxiety… I hope we’ll improve society especially with this in mind anytime soon, but I’m not too optimistic when thinking about all the changes that capitalism and technology (related to capitalism, like social-media) brings, and even now still accelerates…
You are frustrated because you went to those groups expecting to change their minds rather than to understand them better. I understand its difficult but I don’t think that means its not worth doing.
No I didn’t really. Although one can always hope, to give them a new perspective (that is less based on hate and anxiety). It’s more about learning this screwed conception of the world, and the thought-process that e.g. “the elite” (which they ironically support) is against them, making everything worse.
Well and the fact that they make up their own construct of unlogical emotion(mostly negative)-based conspiracies, that even when falsified with simple arguments they can’t seem to get away of them…
Well why would you expect them to adopt your perspective when you simply think they are stupid people who will believe anything.
You never understood what they are feeling and why, and why they are expressing it the way they are.
If you want to change their mind, build a connection with them. We all have the same emotions, its not that complex.
What’s the saying? Dont hate what you don’t know?
I said MAGA energy, you’ve brought the term “Republican Voter” in just now and apparently decided that’s what MAGA energy means… Which is telling.
No I was talking (in my edit) about a phenomena known as “blue shift” in politics where most counts start out with smaller towns (which complete counts first), and rural areas. Then bigger areas and mail in ballots start coming in. So on election night results usually start out red, then have a “blue shift”. That’s the common narrative.
Last election Trump suggested that this was proof of election fraud in the count. So watch for that, and you’ll know whether Trump plans to accept results or push for civil unrest.
…for some reason this has been interpreted by you as saying all Republican voters are violent? I don’t understand why you interpreted it that way.
I was referring to the part before your edit.