Explosive new audio reveals that Donald Trump detailed how he really felt about his White House staff to Jeffrey Epstein, and Epstein touted old photos of Trump with half-naked women taken at the site of the pedophileā€™s rampant sexual abuse of young girls.

On author Michael Wolffā€™s Thursday episode of his podcast Fire and Fury, Wolff shared a recording of a conversation with Epstein from 2017, in which the convicted sex offender and alleged human trafficker recounted Trumpā€™s true feelings about members of his administration, The Daily Beast reported.

ā€œHis people fight each other and then have outsidersā€”he sort of poisons the well outside,ā€ Epstein told Wolff. Epstein went on to paraphrase Trumpā€™s candid statements about his former strategist Steve Bannon, former chief of staff Reince Priebus, and counselor Kellyanne Conway.

ā€œHe will tell 10 people, ā€˜Bannonā€™s a scumbagā€™ and ā€˜Priebus is not doing a good jobā€™ and ā€˜Kelly has a big mouthā€™ā€”what do you think? ā€˜Jamie Dimon says that youā€™re a problem and I shouldnā€™t keep you. And I spoke to Carl Icahn. And Carl thinks I need a new spokesperson,ā€™ā€ Epstein said.

ā€œā€˜So Kelly[anne]ā€”even though I hired Kellyanneā€™s husbandā€”Kellyanne is just too much of a wildcard.ā€™ And then he tells Bannon, ā€˜You know I really want to keep you, but Kellyanne hates you,ā€™ā€ Epstein continued.

Wolff said that he had recordings of roughly ā€œ100 hours of Epstein talking about the inner workings of the Trump White House and about his long standing, deep relationship with Donald Trump

    • Zaktor@sopuli.xyz
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      18 days ago

      This particular recording doesnā€™t matter to me, someone who hates Trump and wants bad news out there to remind people how bad he is. He pitted his staff against each other. A pretty toxic workplace, but not something thatā€™s really high priority in making a decision.

      It doesnā€™t even establish that Epstein and Trump were close. This could all have been him listening to the rumor mill or getting a description from someone on the inside because he was a stupid rich scumbag and could get access to high profile Republican places. If heā€™s actually got 100 hours of bombshell recordings, this is the dumbest one to lead with.

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        18 days ago

        I was trying to get across more than anything is you could build a nuanced, structured, and well-supported argument for any of his major faults, and any of his supporters would not be swayed because their opinion isnā€™t based in fact.

        Not necessarily that this was the nail in the coffin, just that you could hear a dozen of these stories a week, each of varying credibility, and it wouldnā€™t matter if one had him dead to rights.

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          No one is trying to convert the faithful at this hour. That time is long past, but there are plenty of Trump-leaners who are uncomfortable with the choice and could switch or decide to stay home if they hear something they just canā€™t accept.