While rebutting another post here on Lemmy, I ran into this. This says exactly what I want to say.

I am not a friend of Biden’s Administration. I think they drug their feet over a variety of things ranging from holding Trump and his goons accountable for January 6th through rulemaking on issues like OTC Birth Control and abortion rights, and yes, I think he’s too quick to please big business. But then I remember what the alternative is, and … well, disappointed in Biden or not, I’m voting for him. Because my wife is a Black bisexual goth woman, four strikes under Team Pepe’s tent. And I have my own strikes for marrying her as a White dude, and respecting her right to not have kids since she doesn’t want them is another strike against me. And I care about my Non-Christian, Gay, Transgender, and Minority friends, and will never willingly subject them to Team Pepe.

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    Well, the problem is it isn’t “either/or.” It’s “both or just one.”

    Trump will be worse for Palestine, believe it or not. I mean, that isn’t hard to believe, it’s just hard to swallow that those are the choices. But it’s the one we’re stuck with.

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      Oh that is simply not true. Trump CAN’T be worse for Palestine.

      Biden has done every single thing Netanyahu asked him to. After six months of Genocide there are still not a single weapons restriction and Biden is rushing as many weapons as he can to israel. And Biden condones every single one of the Genocidal war crimes openly. And vetoes any condemnation of israel.

      The worst Trump can do is the same as Biden.

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        That’s a naive thing to think. Beyond naive.

        Biden is actually kind of concerned with trying to appear like he cares. He kinda has to. It’s for selfish reasons, of course, he is still a politician. But Democratic voters aren’t just rank-n-file voters like republicans. And they’re not all wanting the most cruel thing to happen. Republicans voters almost universally are.

        The US supports Israel. Like, the country. The machinery. Not Biden or trump or even Bernie, in that hypothetical situation. It’s a massive moneyed machine that probably just one dude couldn’t decide to stop—even if that person were president.

        I’d vote for another country too, for another order, if I could. But we can’t. You’re voting for genocide or genocide. But one of those genocides comes with a slew of other problems for vulnerable communities at home. And that same one comes with a petulant fascist with harm on the brain and a rabid fan base wanting to tear trans people limb from limb and stick women back in the 1940s and just open up he earth and suck out whatever regardless of the consequences. We have minutes until midnight on the climate emergency. Even a slow descent into turmoil is better than throwing everything we can into the fires.

        Being a one-issue voter, especially in 2024, is so incredibly shortsighted and…I’m sorry, but selfish. You’re willing to throw MORE Palestinians, trans people, women, the environment all into the shitpile for, I’m sorry, your personal sense of purity.

        We all get it, what is happening in Palestine is beyond horrifying. It’s genocide. No argument, there. But even a president who has to make a few speeches and small demands on how Israel is “starting to concern” or whatever gestures Biden has to make for optics, is better than a vindictive, bloodthirsty bigot who will, believe it or not, be more cruel if and when he can. That shouldn’t be hard to believe, but it is hard to wrap your head around when the topic is supporting genocide.

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          Dude what? Even past hardcore Republicans like George Bush have been far stronger against israel than Biden.

          This utter delusion that Biden can’t do anything to stop israel is some Blue Maga mental gymnastics.

          Biden is ideologically motivated to support this Genocide. He is willing to throw away the entire election for it.

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            There is literally a video of Trump bragging to random Jews in Mar a Lago that he got them more Palestinian land during his presidency. Trump’s only criticisms have been delusions that “October 7th wouldn’t have happened because Hamas wouldn’t dare piss me off” and telling Israelis “You guys have to fix the optics of what you’re doing because you are losing public support.” He doesn’t give a fuck about the genocide - he just wants it done more quietly so fewer people notice and get upset.

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          In fact, Trump has said Israel should escalate. I believe the phrase he used was “finish the job”.

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            Trump says Israel has to get war in Gaza over ‘fast’ and warns it is ‘losing the PR war’

            “Get it over with and let’s get back to peace and stop killing people. And that’s a very simple statement,” Trump said. “They have to get it done. Get it over with and get it over with fast because we have to – you have to get back to normalcy and peace.”

            “They’re releasing the most heinous, most horrible tapes of buildings falling down. And people are imagining there’s a lot of people in those buildings, or people in those buildings, and they don’t like it,” he added. “They’re losing the PR war. They’re losing it big. But they’ve got to finish what they started, and they’ve got to finish it fast, and we have to get on with life.”

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              It’s interesting that you read something different in that. Trump says that they need to hurry up and finish what they started. That’s not a good thing.

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                It’s interesting that you took the out of context quote you saw on a random lib outlet and do the same thing conservatives do when they repeat whatever out of context BS they hear Biden say on Fox News. Repeat it without ever looking at the context. Literally two sides of the same coin.

                This was one of the weird moments Trump didn’t bow down to Netanyahu.

                A similar moment was when every lib propaganda paper quoted Trump saying “It’s gonna be a bloodbath if Biden wins”. Really gets the libs scared enough to keep voting for Genocide. Until you read the actual quote where Trump is talking about the car industry.

                But hey. I debunked disinformation about orange man. Which now must mean I am a Russian troll and I must looooove Trump.