• Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
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    29 days ago

    Yeah. Also I’m guessing their AI additions to search made their profit margins worse since they take a lot more computation to produce. Although they probably cache a lot of them for common searches.

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      29 days ago

      Probably made the margins better because investors apparently still love hearing the word “AI” attached to shit

      • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
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        29 days ago

        Even though that surely results in them being able to access more money and makes shareholders richer, that’s not a factor in profit margins. Profit margins are just about revenue vs cost. In this case - how much the make from each search vs how much it costs to produce that search.

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        29 days ago

        I hope AI is the new metaverse. I’ll have a good chuckle when it all implodes.

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          Many people around me are using LLMs in many parts of their work al the time. Neutral networks are used in many useful situations. I feel exactly like you, but I’m afraid we’re going to have to cope with it.

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      The US National Weather Service releases updated 84-hour forecasts every 6 hours. Even with supercomputers at their disposal, due to the computational complexity of simulating physics, that is their best possible effort.

      Google, meanwhile, is “developing a machine learning model that it says can accurately predict weather in seconds – not hours – and outperforms 90% of the targets used by the world’s best weather prediction systems.” Using a single desktop computer, they can generate a highly accurate 10-day forecast in under a minute.

      More information:

      https://www.weforum.org/stories/2023/12/ai-weather-forecasting-climate-crisis/

      Given this information, and given the enshittification of Google search, would you still make the same guess about their profit margins?

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        29 days ago

        Yes. Search generally pulls data from databases. It doesn’t compute weather forecasts. The addition of AI results is net addition computation. In the worst case scenario where the generation of the AI results happens on-the-fly, that’s a lot more computation. I’m sure they pre-compute a lot of them so they’re not in the worst case scenario. However in the best case scenario they still have to do this new additional heavy (check LLM compute usage) computation once per result. So the profit margin for search is very likely lower than it used to be when isolating for this variable. If they’re somehow increasing their revenue from these results, that’s another variable that might offset it. I’ve no idea. What I’m certain about is the cost is higher after AI results were introduced because more energy is used.