I can’t wait for the spectacular implosion

  • Draces@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    12
    ·
    13 days ago

    That’d be a lot nicer than Ed Zitron non-stop unthinking whiny critique. I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone I agree with being so unpleasant to listen to

    • o7___o7@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      edit-2
      13 days ago

      as someone who grew up in an “old timey” baptist church, I am 100% comfortable with someone yelling things at me that I agree with, but ymmv.

      • Draces@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        13 days ago

        Yeah, preaching emotions over critical thought sounds like better offline. I literally cancelled my premium Spotify because they didn’t give me a way to stop that show from auto playing after behind the bastards

          • Draces@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            5
            ·
            12 days ago

            That Ed Zitron is unpleasant and Dan Olson would do a much better job making the same point. What is this “no you” that you’re trying to do? Ed Zitron isn’t trying to convince anyone, he’s just whining to people that already agree with him and I find it extremely unconstructive

              • Draces@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                5
                ·
                12 days ago

                Because I’m whining to people that agree with me or something? I don’t know what you’re trying to say because not a lot of people seem to agree with me on this so that can’t be it

            • self@awful.systems
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              ·
              12 days ago

              What is this “no you” that you’re trying to do?

              the penny’s never gonna drop, is it? let me save you the embarrassment

    • V0ldek@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      8 days ago

      don’t think I’ve ever heard someone I agree with being so unpleasant to listen to

      Sending this to EZ so that he can put it as his by-line

    • Cyrus Draegur@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      13 days ago

      Not quite so familiar with this Ed Zitron individual myself, but I agree that critique is best served with precision, clarity, wit, charm, and style. When someone holds a rhetorical position that is correct with regard to reality but articulates said position very poorly, it does a disservice to the discourse at large.

      People (albeit foolishly) very well might reflexively adopt an objectively false stance JUST because they don’t want to agree with someone so disagreeable.

      Or in other words, sometimes nothing makes an idea sound worse than the enthusiastic support of a moron.