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    6 hours ago

    Health care insurance should be handled by governments, or alternatively by law by non profit foundations

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      Some would argue that should be the case for all companies.

      Imagine how much better for profit companies would function if they didn’t have investors skimming off their profits.

      For profit companies should be illegal.

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        Have you ever worked in government?

        Getting the simplest shit done takes forever.

        By contrast, getting things done in a private company is quick as hell by comparison.

        I wouldn’t say government bodies “function better” in my experience.

        All that said, healthcare is one thing I’d definitely like to see handled by the gov rather than privatized.

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            Sorry. I misattributed the government piece to you instead of one further comment up.

            I can’t say I have any experience with NGOs to make a determination on that for myself.

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          You’re argument here is quantity over quality - “these people kill a lot of other people with those decisions, sure… but they make those heavy decisions lightly and quickly and often with an algorithm! That FEELS impressive to me because I’m a toddler that responds to kinetic stimulus for the sake of it and I can’t see any nuance!”

          Also, part of what you’re talking about is by design - Republicans shoot their constituents in the feet so those people can then have foot pain to complain about. Then, when complaining gets vocal, the gop politicians come in and say “we need to just get government away from your feet and they’ll be less painful” ---- They are the “government” that shot you and you are the constituent with a hole in your foot.

          So whine about government being slow some more.

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            But the quality isn’t good either.

            When I worked in government I was surrounded by people who fucking sucked at their jobs. And why try any harder to get better? They were basically un-fireable. They could come in, do jack shit all day, and collect their paycheck.

            So, no, it’s not an argument for quantity over quality. In my experience, both are better in private industry.

            My experience is based heavily in IT, for context.

            However, I do not believe it is the case that private industry is always the answer, as I stated earlier.

            Have you ever worked in government?

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      Usually, things handled by governments suck in orthogonal ways to private companies. Private companies suck due to greed. State owned stuff sucks due to incompetence.

      Where I live, we have a state owned insurance company, but others are allowed to compete with it. Optimistically, they competing with each other making all of them better. Pessimistically, you choose the one that sucks least from your point of view. Either way, better than any proposed alternative.