We wanted Bernie . . . but the DNC did not allow that.
No. Bernie didn’t win. The DNC was a part of that, but he also didn’t get the votes to suggest he could win, other voters didn’t support him - which is how primaries work. I wish he would have won!
And to add to that, Bernie’s an Independent, not a Democrat. If I ran in a republiQan primary and they did some bullshit to make it harder for me - plus the real issue that enough republiQans didn’t vote for me - that’s not the RNC’s fault. That’s hardly “I didn’t win becaus the RNC didn’t let me”.
I just don’t want “Bernie didn’t win because the DNC prevented it” to become some sort of arguable fact - it is part of a larger picture, but a pretty small part.
You can say that he wouldn’t have won the presidential election if you want but he was absolutely pushed out of the nomination in favor of a more-corporate candidate.
Getting over half the country to vote for someone as out of touch and unlikeable as Hilary Clinton is proof that the most Democrats would have voted for anything to avoid Trump. And this November was further proof that moving to the center does not win elections.
Bernie had momentum and was VERY popular with the youth. Clinton’s ignorance of the working class was the subject of memes…
Yeah, that’s the easy narrative for people to hate Democrats with but I don’t think it’s true. Furthermore, it seems like most of the people who promote that idea either weren’t of voting age at the time or aren’t US voters.
I’d be interested to see it as a post where we can slug it out. Start with the news reports and then make your case as to why you think that. We’ll see if there’s anything to learn.
he was absolutely pushed out of the nomination in favor of a more-corporate candidate.
By who? When? What did he say about it?
You don’t have the actual answers to that. But if you think you do - make a post, let’s see it.
Technically you’re right that it wasn’t the DNC alone. It was the democratic party as a whole and the media machine they influence. Sure the DNC gave Hillary decision making power after she paid them a bunch of money, and also gave her a special funding agreement. But the hundreds of unelected superdelegates that supported her before voting even started were probably more influenced by party elites than the DNC. And it’s not like they specifically paid for the opinion pieces telling Bernie to drop out. But it’s not actually illegal for a party to rig a primary so we don’t need to do any real investigation into it.
No. Bernie didn’t win. The DNC was a part of that, but he also didn’t get the votes to suggest he could win, other voters didn’t support him - which is how primaries work. I wish he would have won!
And to add to that, Bernie’s an Independent, not a Democrat. If I ran in a republiQan primary and they did some bullshit to make it harder for me - plus the real issue that enough republiQans didn’t vote for me - that’s not the RNC’s fault. That’s hardly “I didn’t win becaus the RNC didn’t let me”.
I just don’t want “Bernie didn’t win because the DNC prevented it” to become some sort of arguable fact - it is part of a larger picture, but a pretty small part.
The DNC’s role was not small lol
You can say that he wouldn’t have won the presidential election if you want but he was absolutely pushed out of the nomination in favor of a more-corporate candidate.
Getting over half the country to vote for someone as out of touch and unlikeable as Hilary Clinton is proof that the most Democrats would have voted for anything to avoid Trump. And this November was further proof that moving to the center does not win elections.
Bernie had momentum and was VERY popular with the youth. Clinton’s ignorance of the working class was the subject of memes…
Yeah, that’s the easy narrative for people to hate Democrats with but I don’t think it’s true. Furthermore, it seems like most of the people who promote that idea either weren’t of voting age at the time or aren’t US voters.
I’d be interested to see it as a post where we can slug it out. Start with the news reports and then make your case as to why you think that. We’ll see if there’s anything to learn.
By who? When? What did he say about it?
You don’t have the actual answers to that. But if you think you do - make a post, let’s see it.
Technically you’re right that it wasn’t the DNC alone. It was the democratic party as a whole and the media machine they influence. Sure the DNC gave Hillary decision making power after she paid them a bunch of money, and also gave her a special funding agreement. But the hundreds of unelected superdelegates that supported her before voting even started were probably more influenced by party elites than the DNC. And it’s not like they specifically paid for the opinion pieces telling Bernie to drop out. But it’s not actually illegal for a party to rig a primary so we don’t need to do any real investigation into it.