Joe Biden will hold a news conference Thursday, the key event in a monumental week during which the Democratic incumbent is fending off calls for him to step aside as the party’s presumptive nominee.
I don’t have any doubts. I have grave concerns that anyone, literally anyone, would argue that DT is a better option than Biden in any regard. That’s not to say I’m happy to have an old white dude as the nominee but he’s been exceptionally productive and has near infinite less baggage than the alternative.
I’ve yet to be presented with a legit legal way Biden could drop out and allow voters to choose another candidate. Lots of opinions that he should do it but no experts weighing in on how. I could have missed a lot of coverage so I ask people to respectfully share this policy with me.
Supreme Court 2017, after it was established in court that the DNC rigged the primary against Bernie, made a ruling established that the DNC is a private company and can do whatever the fuck they want to decide on a nominee at any point, regardless of whatever the delegates are.
There are no legal barriers to replacing Biden. In fact, his replacement can basically double dip with donors.
I guess I need to learn more about the relationship between the party committees, state’s laws for getting someone on the ballot, primary elections, the ballot box, and the electoral college. Why have a primary election in each state if the party can just put whomever they want on the general election ballot? Could the DNC literally just do a switcheroo and put Hilary (for example) on the ballot in November?
Edit: Found this which answered most of my questions.
the choice of a nominee is party business — not state law, not federal law, and not constitutional law.
I had a whole exchange yesterday with folks about it, and they + the research I did along the way really made me question of it was as impossible as it’s being made out to be.
My takeaways from that whole thread are basically that the only states it may prove legally problematic in (at this point, today), are Georgia and Nevada.
(Georgia because while he can still drop, the deadline to add candidates has passed. And Nevada because other sources say it will be a problem, but I can’t figure out the actual rules!)
But, for Biden to drop, he has to be willing to drop. And he has to do it before he’s declared the nominee by the Democratic Party. And (regardless of their merit) the lawsuits and any injunctions that happen due to those lawsuits must be cleared before the states run out of time to print ballots.
Time is rapidly ticking away for that option, if it’s even possible.
As far as both actual candidates go, they’re both different flavors of Zaphod Beeblebrox.
They could just roofie me for 4 years and assign me to the party that wins, and it’ll be the same outcome. The real leadership comes from their donors, the cabinet (and their donors), the political party (and their donors), and their advisors (and the donors for the think tanks they represent).
Shit, maybe that’s why the parties keep running neurologically impaired old men.
I don’t have any doubts. I have grave concerns that anyone, literally anyone, would argue that DT is a better option than Biden in any regard. That’s not to say I’m happy to have an old white dude as the nominee but he’s been exceptionally productive and has near infinite less baggage than the alternative.
I’ve yet to be presented with a legit legal way Biden could drop out and allow voters to choose another candidate. Lots of opinions that he should do it but no experts weighing in on how. I could have missed a lot of coverage so I ask people to respectfully share this policy with me.
Supreme Court 2017, after it was established in court that the DNC rigged the primary against Bernie, made a ruling established that the DNC is a private company and can do whatever the fuck they want to decide on a nominee at any point, regardless of whatever the delegates are.
There are no legal barriers to replacing Biden. In fact, his replacement can basically double dip with donors.
This. The Democratic party could run a nonbinding online caucus if they felt like.
I guess I need to learn more about the relationship between the party committees, state’s laws for getting someone on the ballot, primary elections, the ballot box, and the electoral college. Why have a primary election in each state if the party can just put whomever they want on the general election ballot? Could the DNC literally just do a switcheroo and put Hilary (for example) on the ballot in November?
Edit: Found this which answered most of my questions.
https://www.factcheck.org/2024/07/qa-how-biden-can-be-replaced-as-the-democratic-nominee/
It’s all very simple. At the end of the convention we have a nominee and there name goes on the state ballots.
And yes. They could do a Hillary switcheroo.
I had a whole exchange yesterday with folks about it, and they + the research I did along the way really made me question of it was as impossible as it’s being made out to be.
Link to thread
My takeaways from that whole thread are basically that the only states it may prove legally problematic in (at this point, today), are Georgia and Nevada.
(Georgia because while he can still drop, the deadline to add candidates has passed. And Nevada because other sources say it will be a problem, but I can’t figure out the actual rules!)
But, for Biden to drop, he has to be willing to drop. And he has to do it before he’s declared the nominee by the Democratic Party. And (regardless of their merit) the lawsuits and any injunctions that happen due to those lawsuits must be cleared before the states run out of time to print ballots. Time is rapidly ticking away for that option, if it’s even possible.
As far as both actual candidates go, they’re both different flavors of Zaphod Beeblebrox.
They could just roofie me for 4 years and assign me to the party that wins, and it’ll be the same outcome. The real leadership comes from their donors, the cabinet (and their donors), the political party (and their donors), and their advisors (and the donors for the think tanks they represent).
Shit, maybe that’s why the parties keep running neurologically impaired old men.
When Trump shows signs of dementia, it’s crickets. When it’s Biden, all the big media outlets lose their fucking shit. The double standards are wild.