I was in an incident that led to people complaining about me here and by extension in Ask Lemmy, one which I explained my perspective on elsewhere. Then, when sharing my perspective, I was asked by a certain Blaze to share it in YPTB, only for those in charge there to give what amounted to a signal of disregard for it and to take it elsewhere. Going by their own words, I then shared it in !fediverselore@lemmy.ca as the only close alternative available, which, as a part of their own ā€œrules subtextā€, sometimes allows this, and the person, if not all of those who help with YPTB, proceeded to drop by anyways and scold me because ā€œYTPB has specific posting guidelines in the sidebarā€.

The implication here is false, at least by my definition of the word ā€œfalseā€, and he even alluded to that after it began to be discussed elaborately, albeit before using an appeal to the masses (story of my life) and say ā€œmost people seem to understandā€, which ignores consensus of me and the aforementioned Blaze (as much as the ā€œthe truth we all wanted to speakā€ remark ignores not everyone had that issue). Notice how I responded with ā€œI can spot rules broken by the other personā€™s thread more easily than I can spot rules broken by mineā€ and got only thumbs down for it and no responses, yet when I actually dissected the rules piece by piece in front of him to point out that any rule I supposedly broke wasnā€™t there, which even the person who recommended I make the discussion in the first place (the aforementioned Blaze) agreed was a ā€œfair point to be honestā€, the mod then delved into the concept of ā€œunspoken rulesā€ as an excuse for himself and said he didnā€™t want to ā€œrules-lawyerā€, which not only disproves what he said about ā€œspecific posting guidelinesā€ being ā€œin the sidebarā€ that supposedly explained what I did wrong, but proved a point I commonly mention about people in different places including here always being uncritical and unwilling to see things for themselves and just taking peoplesā€™ word for things (and about that, to respond to Cypherā€™s last reply, intellectual =/= intelligent). A part of that is it also suggests, by extension, that the quantity of thumbs down you garner is unreliable as consistently meaning anything, unless the rule is actually to apply gladiator logic and say a thumbs down signals mercy, as indicated by the very Roman-esque culture around here. I guess all this time, I was being praised and didnā€™t realize it?

This idea of ā€œunspoken rulesā€ and ā€œreading between the linesā€ seems to be a common theme here because everyone seems to think that concept is valid, and they think that whether youā€™re akin to an outcast is defined by the norms you follow. This makes me curious to askā€¦ hypothetically, if I get all PTB gradings from everyone because I couldnā€™t read the ā€œunspoken rulesā€ or anticipate mod discretion, what if I were to go to the places I have authority over and ban everyone who says or has said anything positive or supportive about Luigi Mangione or what he did? Would I be able to accomplish this without being called a PTB? After all, that is how this all started, and again, that would be an ā€œunspoken ruleā€ on its own that can be chalked up to mod discretion, now wouldnā€™t it? Those are the terms.

I await your choice.

  • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.eeOP
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    Why is it I am in the wrong for criticizing people who do as I say I might do, but those same people, i.e. this community, seems justified in criticizing me for the same thing? Double standard much?

    I canā€™t find ā€œunspokenā€ mentioned.

    Nobody uses the exact wording. But this is a theme, and the biggest example of this is in the proof of one of the messages of mine that got removed, when I was blamed for not picking something up from this communityā€™s rules that is not specified.

    Was it advised to you that you should have known better than to censor pro Luigi speech due to public sentiment?

    If anything, the opposite would have been the case. The fact this is being held up against me is why Iā€™m pointing out how much of a double standard it is. My experiences have paralleled yours directly, though the double standard aspect is the only one Iā€™ve been complaining about.

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      Nobody uses the exact wording. But this is a theme, and the biggest example of this is in the proof of one of the messages of mine that got removed, when I was blamed for not picking something up from this communityā€™s rules that is not specified.

      Edit: So the removal reason is included above as well as the relevant rule. Itā€™s literally the first community rule in the sidebar.

      • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.eeOP
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        Rule one says ā€œpost only about bans or other sanctions from mod(s)ā€.

        I am a mod.

        My discussion was about a ban.

        Therefore, my post was ā€œabout bans or other sanctions from mod(s)ā€.

        Is there something I am missing thatā€™s explicitly in the wording, or am I missing something thatā€™s not in the wording (which would make me ask how this is my fault)?

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          You being a mod or not is irrelevant. Can you point to the specific part of your blog post that mentions a Mod being a Power Tripping Bastard (PTB)? Because all Iā€™m seeing thatā€™s vaguely related is:

          Person G, of all the people who responded to his remark, to, at one point, reveal themselves to be far more explicit in allegiance with the criminal named after the plumber, leading to their own banishment, which in turn added to the reaction as they joined forces with Person F, causing everyone to call Person C a tyrant, since they are making it sound like she is just banishing anyone she feels like.

          Which just makes it sound like you are talking about yourself being the PTB, which has already been established.

          • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.eeOP
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            6 days ago

            You say that like I ever objected to receiving the grade of PTB. Sharing my perspective was not equal to an objection to the first discussion (which mentions the whole point, that I am a mod of !asklemmy@lemmy.world and that me performing my job led to all this) about me, in fact it would have welcomed the idea to be floated around from a new angle that I either was or was not a PTB. Which makes it weird you say that me being a mod is irrelevant, because me having my first attempt to share my perspective removed by the mods of !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com would have therefore been implicative of the fact it was relevant.