• nomy@lemmy.zip
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    Hard to be an ally when you’re excluded. Hard to even want to be an ally when you’re told you’re part of the problem.

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      It’s terribly easy to be an ally when you’re excluded. Helping people to have the space and community they need can be an incredible act of allyship, even (perhaps especially) when that space and community is not also for you.

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      Im a guy. Im excluded from mothers groups. Is that really a bad thing when I can’t offer the group anything as Im not a mother?

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        I think you as a father could probably learn a lot from mothers, so yeah it’s kind of fucked up to be excluded.

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          I have no kids. If the purpose of the mother’s group is for mothers to share their problems then I have nothing to offer.

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            Why assume you have something to offer them when the opposite is likely truer.

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                Idk if even they have understood the position they’re taking.

                Their “Why should I be barred from taking advantage of anything that might benefit me?”

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                Your “I am have nothing to give and no way to meaningfully help, so I’ll stay out.”

                Is very telling.

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      You’re not excluded, you’re just not included. You’re not meant to be part of everything in society, that doesn’t make you an enemy. Try getting over it and being an ally regardless

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        I’m doing my thing and preparing, Ive got a nice little circle around me. Unfortunately a lot of people are hung up on identity politics instead of actually organizing and putting in work.

        I’m an accomplice, not an ally. Too bad too many people are stuck on themselves to figure it out.