The desktop image was the first image we made, and that same install is what Bazzite is still built on today :)

For that, check out Bluefin or Aurora. They’re all under the same umbrella as Bazzite, but with a user/developer focus instead of a gaming focus.

Only the kernel module is open source, and it’s just a wrapper for closed source blobs.

In actuality the open source drivers just kill all support for the 10 series, and otherwise do nothing to fix Nvidia’s utterly fucked up driver problems.

Bazzite lead developer here, we actually never used the flatpak. Our first release had it installed in a distrobox container on the desktop images. Deck images always had RPM Steam because Steam is essentially functioning as a desktop environment there. We moved them both to be RPM for support consistency reasons.

Smells like FUD to me.

It’s the same RPM that’s installed in workstation from RPM fusion. There’s nothing custom about that.

Gamescope is also an RPM, it’s a slightly newer version than what Fedora packages but it’s packaged the exact same way. Neither of those are likely to break because they are fundamental to the basic functionality of the deck images.

Additional pre-installed packages are added, but existing packages are not touched.

It’s immutability comes directly from silverblue and kinoite, again nothing custom there.

Such as?

I’m not sure what you mean by that, it’s directly built on Fedora which is probably one of if not the best workstation OS.

The very first release was actually a steam deck release, the desktop release came later.

I read the complaints and I lost all respect. I will not be spending another cent with that company, nor will I attend any of his future talks.

I am very ashamed that I own a single wolfire title.

Until an iPhone can fold and send pictures/videos to people who aren’t using the same phone that don’t look like diarrhea I honestly don’t care about anything Apple does.

Gamescope is broken on Nvidia and has been for years.

It currently breaks Firefox, but they’re working on it.

Bazzite doesn’t use flatpak steam. Standard rpm install with no sandboxing.

If you installed it that’s entirely your fault.

Which btw also include the Fedora Flathub repository.

We no longer touch the repos as Fedora is now in agreement with using Flathub.

You start to sound like a GrapheneOS dev. It makes no sense to prevent users from reinstalling removed packages.

It’s for user security. I have no interest in debating this decision, my reasons are outlined.

Distrobox updates automatically on Bluefin and Bazzite.

In this case we disagree with Fedora, Atomic Fedora should not have Firefox in image. It does not matter to us what they do, we explicitly remove it.

If you like the way Fedora builds their Firefox RPM, that’s all the more reason for you to use a fedora distrobox.

I shutdown my laptop every day and update every day. That is fine for me.

Irrelevant. Not everybody does. Some people pin an old image due to a bug and sit on a far older image. If you had it your way, they’d be using a week or month old build of Firefox – that’s unacceptable.

Removing Firefox prevents people from reinstalling it

Good. I can promise you if that gets fixed and I have a way to continue to prevent it, I will.

Flatpak Firefox does not have the ability to create user namespaces for tab process isolation. This is due to all Flatpaks using the same badness-enumerating seccomp filter, there is no additional hardening possible and they still block userns creation.

This is an issue for Mozilla. They are happy enough with the state of the Flatpak to not only verify it, but list it on their website. Unless you’ve got a CVE for the Flatpak version of Firefox I don’t see any point in even engaging with this argument.

We remove Firefox because having it on the image is a security hazard. You want your browser to update more often than your operating system.

We prefer the flatpak, but if for some reason you need the RPM I would suggest installing it with distrobox.

We build twice a week, that’s not frequent enough for a web browser.

Ultimately it’s saving you from yourself, if this bug gets fixed and there’s a way I can unfix it, I will do so.

If you need RPM Firefox, my recommendation is that you install it with Distrobox. This also solves the security issue that we remove upstream Firefox over - update frequency.

You don’t want Firefox to only update when your operating system image does. As far as I’m concerned the bug preventing Firefox from being re-added is a feature.