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      Inbox for me. I still manage my email the way that Inbox taught me to do it, but it just isn’t the same.

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          If you use a reputable adblocker, especially a well known FOSS one like uBlock Origin, you’re not the product. The way they block ads is by downloading static filter lists, not live checking by sending your queries to their servers.

          I’m not saying all adblockers won’t track you, but acting as if people are “Adblock’s product” by using adblockers is simply a misinformed view of how most adblockers operate. (I do agree that marketing adblock as a solution for a legitimate issue doesn’t negate the initial problem or its critics, though.)

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          I’m not saying it’s not a bad thing, I’m just remarking it’s interesting you know in the first place. I didn’t know.

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    Hate it like you want, but the effing pixels are still the best phones. Not by os, not by spec, but simply by being the most open android of them all. The easiest to de-google. Sounds stupid, but is not.

    I hate google with all my heart (since they dropped their slogan “don’t be evil” and went… Well… Evil). But i will buy their fucking phones until a viable alternative comes along.

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      100%. I just bought a Pixel 8 so I could install Graphene OS. It was so damn easy too. I was amazed. This phone is great minus the lack of headphone jack and SD card slot.

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          Been using their phones since the Nexus 6. That thing was huge.

          And I’m the one guy that uses Google Fi. My bill was $38 last month.

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              Genuinely curious, what service are you comparing this to that makes it sound quite expensive? Asking for my wallet

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                A very basic phone plan from one of the top three ISPs where I live (Taiwan). Comes with 3 GB of data a month. (I’m on Wi-Fi most of the time.) Costs ~$6.1 a month. No 5G connection, only 4G. ~22 cents per minute of calling time.

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                  $38 usd is considered low in the US because even though we all have a high median income the cost of everything is extraordinarily high, rendering most americans de facto impoverished

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            I’ve been on Fi for years, I think basically since the first year they started ProjectFi. So much cheaper than my old Verizon or sprint accounts…

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            And I’m the one guy that uses Google Fi. My bill was $38 last month.

            There are dozens of us, baker’s dozens.

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        Oh man, the lack of a headphone jack is still a killer for me. It’s one of the reasons why I stayed on OnePlus 6 for so long, and to be blunt, I don’t see the Pixel 8 as a huge jump outside of power and bullshit like AI photos. My kingdom for a high-end phone with a headphone jack and stock-ish Android!

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      The call screener is a godsend and it’s the absolute most used feature I rely on. Many evenings I wake up for work and see that my phone stopped 5-10 spam calls that would have ruined my sleep.

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        Hehe, i have an awesome solution for that. I simply block everyone except wifey and friends. The rest of the world doesn’t need to reach me. I call back when i want to, or simply don’t 😁

        Just because i CAN be reached mobile doesn’t mean i have to. Wasn’t before Smartphones and won’t be with…

        But yes, the call-screening is cool. If you disregard privacy and the percentage of non tech-savy people who are totally overwhelmed by that.

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      It’s a real shame that OnePlus just became an Oppo rebranding, because the OP1 was a phenomenal phone, and up until OP6 they were both cheap and had a relatively clean Android install. To date, features like gestures are still better than what you get on the Pixel, and most of their stuff is less invasive than Google’s.

      The Android market nowadays, especially for high end, is “which manufacturer is the least shit”, and that’s a real shame.

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        I desperately want fair phone (and it’s parts) to be sold in my country. 8-10 years of android support for a self repairable phone? Yes please.

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          Those looked nice, yes… But hard to get here and technically not that interesting to me, last time i checked. But we need more alternatives than just fairphone.

          I hate the smartphone-market and what samsung and crapple made out of it.

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        Totally. First thing i check is “can i debloat and root this piece of shit which is technically awesome but ruined software-side”. Which i most likely can’t as the hurdles became more and more annoying each year up to the point where i gave up and went google.

        If they’d do the same with PCs, noone would buy that shit. Unless it’s a crapple…

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        My 7t was the best phone I ever had when it was on Oxygen OS 10, but every upgrade was a downgrade. Features were dropped, ui got uglier, bloat was added. I have an 8t now, but I won’t be getting another OnePlus. Really sad

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    Aside from Pixels, they’ve pretty much ruined all their products.

    It sucks, because I actually like Google products, minus the gross privacy violations and ads. I used to pay for YT Premium.

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      Visual voicemail is broken on my Pixel, but that might be my carrier (Mint)

      BTW if anyone has a fix or a recommended app for visual voicemail please let me know

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        I remember Visual Voicemail being broken for me back when I used to use Mint as well.

        I switched to US Mobile on Verizon’s network and it works perfectly fine.

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          Well yeah, that’s what I’ve done, but I’m self employed and some of my customers are old and don’t text. I’ve definitely lost some business because my voicemail is full

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      YouTube music/premium never grew on me. It simply wasn’t as good as google play music. ( in my honest opinion )

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        I never really used it for YT Music. I don’t like YT Music.

        I liked no ads + background playback on iOS and Android without having to go through hoops like using NewPipe/Revanced.

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        I liked it but the fact that they stole our google play music purchases to replace it with a sub only service soured the experience quite a bit.

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        It’s ok, and getting better. My big problem with it is (like you) that Google Play Music was incredible, so good, and they discontinued it in favor of the much worse and awkwardly named YouTube Music.

        Whoever convinced them to give up the branding of “Play Store, Play Music, Play Movies” should be drawn and quartered.

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    Theres much much more… Smaller kills sometimes are the most effective. Think about Google RSS Reader the best rss reader to ever exist…

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    I don’t feel like Chromebooks are all that bad. Especially if the other option is limited capacity computer rooms. I imagine the restrictions of a Chromebook would be similar to the limitations imposed by the IT department.

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      It’s good if you need to protect and restrict a large group of computer illiterate people with low needs for applications or power.

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      The problem is how microsoft doesn’t want to lose the title as shittiest software company, that shit about copilot is absolute distopian nightmare fuel.

      Even orwell would be like; “wow wow wow, thats to far”. At least we could say we were in a “happy world”, now this shit (USA, EU) is north korea ccp edition 2.0, redux.

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    I think the general rule is anything google acquired was good and anything they built themselves was bad and ended up getting killed.

    There are exceptions but some of the only decent parts of google; maps, YouTube, AdWords were all acquisitions. I think they even just got HTC to build the pixel exclusively for them

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      What pisses me off is the fitfit app requiring i turn on my location to sync my flex 2 mere weeks after google buys them out.

      It doesn’t even have a screen, why do you need a location?

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    If/when they screw up gmail, I’m blacklisting Google for good, that’s gonna be such a goddamn pain to disentangle myself from.

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      Email hosting is pretty cheap. Ive paid for email for a couple years now and use gmail for almost nothing except junkier things.

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        It’s about the thousands of things you have your old gmail tied to. Yes I use forwarding to my new proton mail but sometimes it doesn’t work cause it went into spam or smh and I must open gmail.

        Sometimes also the icloud aliases stuff stops working and I don’t want my proton mail to be associated with too much ads so I again type the old mail…

        To be honest I was supposed to use proton but I use apple icloud aliases stuff most of the time because I don’t want to disclose my most important and secure email address on some trashy sites. So yeah that google switch didn’t work out all that good I guess I just changed the tech overlord. At least the new one didn’t want to monopolize the internet I guess

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    What have Google developed inhouse that’s good since Gmail?

    Android and YouTube were both acquisitions.