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I guess I need glasses bc I can’t C#
A thinly veiled M$ ad, trying to save face after the .NET fiasco of 2021…
Everything I don’t like is an ad.
Seriously. People. Get off your high horses. It’s a fucking greetext of someone liking something.
liking something by regurgitating marketing blurbs.
Tell me more about the .NET fiasco of 2021?
Microsoft tried to lock a development feature behind a paywall by introducing an artificial dependency on Visual Studio.
This also happened to occur right around the time there were also licensing and hosting issues around open source libraries. The manipulation of the .NET foundation was the really concerning part. Made it clear that MS still doesn’t give a damn about the wider community using their language.
What on earth is this gibberish
A weird ass Microsoft ad.
I work with .net developers. It scarred them so deeply, don’t even like to program outside of work anymore.
Yeah
I could maybe see it, if all you know otherwise is C++, and your experience with other languages is trying to make python / go / node / whatever work well on a Windows machine without well-working tooling, and then you finally try C# and it’s like oh shit, it’s not filling up my mouth with feces every time I want to iterate over a dictionary or need memory management, this is a big improvement, I like it
But, VSCode has good support for those other languages now anyway
And, the bigger question, who the fuck are all these people upvoting this
Like what do you guys do all day? Or is this some subtle super sophisticated joke I am not understanding, or do you just like the man’s chin? Or do you just not program and you upvote programming things out of general excitement about the idea of doing programming?
Who in the fuck is this excited about C# of all the things in the world to get excited about?
I’m just baffled in general by it
I’m assuming since this is greentext a lot of people seeing this don’t work with code every day. I definitely don’t work with it every day, only reason I know .NET is a fistful of fireants is from the few programs I have made for my company.
Makes me wonder what kind of programs you make? Work with C# everyday, never really run into problems unless you’re working with the deeper Windows layers.
I work in C# and I find it highly preferable over working in Java or C++.
Yeah. That’s what I was saying - it is clearly superior to C++ and probably to Java but those are like the worst two languages in the meta. It’s like hey this is a clear improvement over what we were doing 40 years ago that’s acknowledged by everyone has aged poorly.
Idk man, I’m not trying to be bigoted about it just saying my experience is more pleasant with a few other languages available outside of that grouping.
It very much depends on what you’re trying to do. C# is pretty great for developing APIs, especially in an enterprise environment involving a lot of business logic. I don’t have much of an opinion on Django as I haven’t spent enough time looking into it, but I have looked at enough Node.js code to know I don’t prefer it for most of the projects I’ve been involved in.
My Python experience is largely based in working with things like Raspberry Pis, and relatively simple jobs where Python made the job pretty easy. I don’t know enough experience with larger Python projects to have a feel for what good architecture in a complex application looks like.
With C#, I can go into a large application using good practices and quickly navigate the code and be productive.
IMO C# is at the point where Java can probably just die. I don’t see a point in keeping Java when C# is a viable option in many use cases.
I don’t think this line of reasoning is strictly speaking correct, but assuming it was, then I think it would follow that Kotlin exists and as such C# does not need to be kept around.
Compiled Java is still cross-platform. It’s been a few years for me, but when I last worked in C# it was a giant PITA to work on it in Linux or MacOS. I hope it’s gotten better.
I’m sure Microsoft will be happy to know their EEE strategy is finally paying off, only two decades late.
Oracle owns Java and has made its proprietary hold on the language clear.
There are no good guys here.
It’s attitudes like this that made me choose C# as the language I wanted to use professionally after graduation.
Having grown up in the Slashdot era where people would be childish, post about Micro$oft, and parrot EEE, all while the .NET Foundation consistently put out great tooling with a mature community that actively wanted to help you learn the language/framework, the choice was simple.
Always seems like you have to reinvent the wheel in .NET and I’m missing something. Is there a nice set of ready to go libraries like Spring Boot?
aspnet core is the library you want
Simple and just works
I get the sense that’s what .NET itself is meant to be
It’s a very insular ecosystem IMO, and the lines between .NET, C# and Visual Studio are very blurry
pervasive unchecked nullability
Framework management is hell, fat binaries inconvenient and not default
No option monad in the standard lib
Cross version dependencies simply don’t work in some contexts
Compiler output only marginally better than working with c++
At least it doesn’t have Gradle.
Null reference checking by the compiler is enabled by default in new C# projects.
C# doesn’t come with an option monad in its standard library, but its cooler sibling F# does.
pervasive unchecked nullability
Addressed nowadays with the question mark and exclamation mark syntax, and programming without nullability is a pain
Framework management is hell, fat binaries inconvenient and not default
Nuget?
Compiler output only marginally better than working with c++
No one claims it’s faster at runtime than good C++, it’s just a lot easier to write decent code
Compiler output only marginally better than working with c++
No one claims it’s faster at runtime than good C++, it’s just a lot easier to write decent code
I think they’re referring to warning and error content. Compared to things like rust, deciphering error notifications from the c# compiler can sometimes feel like trying to figure out what a child with limited vocabulary is trying to tell you.
Even with decades of personal experience with it, they can be confusing and non-informative sometimes for me.
i hate .net with a passion and will spent the rest of my life hunting down the inventor
My dot-net experience is kinda the opposite. Was I doing it wrong?
No you tried like the rest of us. I hope the fantasy OP is spewing is at least earning him some money.
F# is so dope too
Do you know why sharp is added to the end of programming languages? Like c sharp and f sharp?
Actually, I don’t even know if it is pronounced c sharp or f sharp. I just assumed it was the same as music.
a sharp symbol is ++ stacked on top of ++ So C ++ ++ becomes C#
Phonetically, It is C sharp because it sounds cooler than C hash or C pound.
It’s funny that in spanish only the “c” is translated.
We say “ce sharp”
Runs on Windows, macOS, and Linux
I mean, you can’t argue with that.
i tried using c# for lower-level-ish tasks and it was even more painful than js (emulation development, specifically). who the fuck decided that all math operations should cast to int???
I program professionally in C# and I gotta say, it really isn’t for that. You can do services in it, but that’s as low level as I’d suggest. It’s definitely a high level language for rapid dev of web and desktop stuff.
