• lennybird@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Friendly reminder that literally all legalization legislation and referendums have come through the Democratic party.

    Biden already pledged support. He needs youth vote. There’s literally no reason he wouldn’t unless he was blocked by Republicans…

    … Which he is.

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      5 months ago

      The legalization of cannabis in my state was brought about by activists, not Democratic Party members, and was passed by the public, which is made up of a majority of unaffiliated voters. Our Democratic governor vehemently opposed the measure. He did implement it when it passed, which Republican legislatures and governors have not done when similar bills were passed by the public in Republican states, though.

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      5 months ago

      Then why is one of his campaign promises written as: “As president he will decriminalize cannabis…”

      Is his campaign promising things he doesn’t have the power to do?

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        5 months ago

        Yes this is literally par for the course for every single presidential campaign in history.

        They promise what they’ll do. They don’t say try to do because that’s been tested in marketing and certainty sounds better. Nevertheless it’s not Biden’s fault his agenda for what he’s been voted into office on is being blocked by the opposition for poor reasons.

        The question isn’t why isn’t Biden doing this, the issue is why are Republicans blocking it and why aren’t you trying to convince them and their supporters?

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          If I can’t believe any of the good campaign promises from biden because everyone lies, why should we take the scary campaign promises of republicans seriously?

          It really leads to apathy in the voter base.

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            5 months ago

            For the same reason we take Biden seriously: Legalization has progressed in universally all blue states, has it not?

            Ergo, you answered your own question: promises often come to fruition.

            So let’s not risk letting Republican promises become reality, such as the promise of overturning Roe… Righhtttt?

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            5 months ago

            I’m really struggling to understand how you don’t understand how this works. I have to conclude you’re doing this in bad faith, given you implied your age is pretty high.

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                5 months ago

                That they aren’t promises but goals. The Biden administration (and about every administration) works towards everything they say they’ll do, how much they get done is determined by their majority and the willingness of the opposition to work with them.

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                    5 months ago

                    You’ve already been told this in an earlier reply by someone else.

                    They promise what they’ll do. They don’t say try to do because that’s been tested in marketing and certainty sounds better.

                    President’s aren’t dictators, but they do have an amount of control of pushing for specific legislation, and the big “promises” are about trying to push this legislation.

                    Other promises can get stalled even if it’s within the president’s authority, like Biden’s student debt relief was stalled by the Supreme Court.

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      5 months ago

      Yeah but some white kid doesn’t get to blaze it with their free unicorn pony so end of democracy over it we get!

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          5 months ago

          Phlubba might be referring to right wing youths who would hypothetically vote against Biden or not vote at all, cascading into a loss of US Democracy and eventually the fall of NATO and potentially democracy across the world as a whole. I don’t think our situation is necessarily that bad, but it’s definitely one of many possible futures.

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          5 months ago

          He’s saying the only thing he ever says: having expectations of Democrats means you’re a spoiled child.

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            Ah — correction — having unreasonable expectations of Democrats in the face of immovable majority opposition, suggests you’re a spoiled child.

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              5 months ago

              I meant exactly what I said. There is no correction needed.

              Just because you falsely consider all criticism of Democrats to be unreasonable and all opposition to be immovable doesn’t make it so.