Trump Demands Biden Remove Ad of Him Calling Dead Soldiers ‘Suckers’ and ‘Losers’ - The former president said only a “psycho” or a “very stupid person” would’ve made such statements.

  • masquenox@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    “What was in it for them?”

    Sounds like a perfectly reasonable question to me… far more reasonable than simply assuming the people who perpetrated the US’s colonialist mass-murder campaigns in the third world was simply “good men” (supposedly) “doing the right thing.”

    Good job making Trump sound more rational than you, hero.

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      This take just baffles me… you can disapprove of a war, and still respect people willing to put their life on the line for something they believe is right. Even in war, opposing sides have a long history of showing their enemy a certain amount of personal respect, even though they clearly disagree about something to the point of killing each other over it.

      Your take is just condescending and unempathetic. You can respect someone for sacrificing themselves without agreeing with them about what they’re sacrificing themselves for. Regardless, it shouldn’t be hard to see how someone fighting to depose an infamously brutal dictator (Iraq) or a fundamentalist regime that stones women for wanting a divorce (Afghanistan) can believe that they are doing something good.

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          5 months ago

          After reviewing their comment history, I think Masquenox has strong controversial opinions and a bellicose attitude, but is not a troll.

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            5 months ago

            After reviewing their modlog history, I think Masquenox displays a level of emotional incontinence that is effectively the same as trolling.

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              5 months ago

              lol putting that up on the shelf with ‘verbal incontinence’, I like it.

              I do set a line between ‘cantankerous’ and ‘troll’ more leniently along the annoyance scale than others. I say let the dork be a dork, not everyone has social skills.

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                I do see what you mean. I think when a dork engages in repeated personal attacks they cross the line for me regardless of their intent.

                It’s a philosophical question akin to Baudrillard’s “simulate a robbery” idea.

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        5 months ago

        This take just baffles me… you can disapprove of a war, and still respect people willing to put their life on the line for something they believe is right.

        A Toast to the Troops… All the troops. Both Sides.

        You can respect someone for sacrificing themselves without agreeing with them about what they’re sacrificing themselves for.

        RIP to Sgt. Rufus “Baby Ears” McGuffin. He died doing what he loved. Ripping the ears of babies and putting them on a big necklace that he would wear around camp.

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          “All the troops, both sides” is half my point when pointing out that enemy combatants historically have often held respect for each other.

          Yes, I respect a combatant fighting for something they believe in that’s bigger than themselves, people not fighting for personal gain, but because they want to give someone else a better life. That’s regardless of what side they’re on- even if they’re on the side I’m actively trying to kill.

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            5 months ago

            enemy combatants historically have often held respect for each other.

            Torturing POWs to death as a form of respect

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          He died doing what he loved. Ripping the ears of babies and putting them on a big necklace that he would wear around camp.

          Just another “All American Hero,” eh?