• small44@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    The Usa and other allies won’t stop supporting Israel politically and military, Palestine can’t beat Israel alone, it need support from other countries . I don’t hear people calling for not escalating against Russia and rightfully so. Both Israel and Russia are occupiers.

    Yes Iran doesn’t really care about Palestinians but their interests align with supporting armed groups against Israel

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      21 days ago

      You don’t seem to get it. There won’t be a Palestine if this war keeps escalating. Because Iran will annihilate it along with Israel.

      Believe it or not, Palestine doesn’t have a giant radiation shield.

      Also, the idea that millions of dead Israelis and Iranians even if nukes aren’t used is worth it because of Palestine is extremely ethically messed up.

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          21 days ago

          Wait… so now your argument is that in order to stop Gaza’s destruction, Gaza has to be made unlivable in a nuclear war?

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            21 days ago

            No what I’m saying is the only option right now for palestinians and countries that have interest in a weaker Israel is to use armed struggle . Even with tactical nuke, it’s not possible to nuke Gaza without having a huge effect on Israeli land.

            I’m still waiting for your answer for what’s is preventing Israel from destroying Palestine completely right now.

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              21 days ago

              Believe it or not, I am not privy to Israeli military policy. I do, however, understand how radiation works and I also understand that advocating for killing more people than a genocide has already killed to stop the genocide is supremely ethically messed up.

              Would you also say that every single Israeli should be killed to stop the genocide in Gaza? Do you think a good solution to stop a genocide is a different genocide?

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                21 days ago

                So you basically have zero realistic answer to how to stop the genocide.

                No, I’m not saying we should kill every Israeli to stop the genocide, I’m not such a monster. I’m saying Israel should be weakened militarly and economically to be forced to real peace. I believe in a one state solution where religious sects and atheists lives together with no violence.

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                  21 days ago

                  Why are you expecting me, a random internet user, to have a solution to stopping genocide? And if I had a solution, why would you expect it to be a viable one?

                  Do you know my foreign policy bona fides? Do you know how much personal experience I have with genocide? Zero.

                  Are you like this when random people are talking about COVID despite not knowing whether or not they have medical degrees? “You have no solution for how to stop COVID.” No shit. They’re not doctors. Much like I don’t work in foreign policy.

                  I don’t know everything, nor would I ever pretend to. And I am certainly not going to play armchair expert no matter how much I’ve “done the research.”

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                    21 days ago

                    You don’t need to be an expert to look into history and find out that colonized countries has no option but to use armed struggle against their colonizers and also had to rely on other countries to provide them with weapon.