• exasperation@lemm.ee
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    13 days ago

    I’m new to this community. What is this thread? Do people submit their own votes for a straw poll here?

    As far as I can tell, it seems like most commenters have their own computer ranking systems that they’re explaining as they submit.

    It’s all pretty interesting, but pretty intimidating for someone new to this place.

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      12 days ago

      Pretty much! It doesn’t have to be a computer poll, it can be just your opinion, or a hybrid.

      I do a computer poll, because a) I don’t watch enough games to make an informed ranking and b) it’s a fun exercise in coding and tuning the algorithm(s) for me.

      You also don’t need to share your ballot in the comments, but I also enjoy sharing and explaining what my algorithm is doing and if/where I disagree with it.

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        9 days ago

        If you use an API to get stats for your algorithm would you be willing to say which ones? Making my own sounds like a fun casual project.

    • g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.worldOPM
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      12 days ago

      !WVbrU@lemmy.world took the words right out of my mouth. I agree that it can be pretty intimidating at first. Either to put together a computer poll (which I still haven’t done as I haven’t found one that represents my big orange bias well enough) or to put together a human poll. I would say if you’re interested in the former most of the commenters around here are huge nerds (no offense y’all) and would likely be willing to show you a thing or two. Putting together a human poll is probably easier, but at least for me starting out I was certainly worried and sometimes blocked by my own perceived “correctness”. Remember though, there are no right or wrong answers.

      Part of the reason we have this open poll is to get as many ballots as possible, and smooth out any noise from strange rankings. We also have a lot of fun with those strange rankings, at least once a season we get a ballot with someones favorite team taking the top spot with no justification other than “Go <team>” and it always brings a smile to my face at least. Again some advice if you’re interested in starting your own human poll, a good place to start is by “correcting” the AP poll so that you think it’s good. After a few weeks of this you start to get a hang for your own ranking system and again, there are no right or wrong answers. As an added bonus we’re doing a cfb bracket prediction contest next week that you still have time to become eligible for! More information in the pinned post here.

  • g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.worldOPM
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    12 days ago

    My ballot this week, late as with everything else as I play catch up. Poll will be up in maybe a few hours as I gotta bust out some work before I have time for that.

    1. Oregon
    2. Georgia
    3. Miami (FL)
    4. Tennessee
    5. Texas
    6. Indiana
    7. Iowa State
    8. Ohio State
    9. Army
    10. LSU
    11. Clemson
    12. Notre Dame
    13. Penn State
    14. Illinois
    15. BYU
    16. Texas A&M
    17. Boise State
    18. Pittsburgh
    19. Vanderbilt
    20. Alabama
    21. Kansas State
    22. Washington State
    23. UNLV
    24. Nebraska
    25. Arkansas

    Also ngl, as a gator hator, they are probably on my short list of missing the ballot this week. If they manage an upset at TWLOCP…

  • WVbrU@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    Here are the results from my computer poll. Oregon overtakes Indiana, and Notre Dame gets a big boost. Navy sadly falls out of the Top 25, but still on the bubble.

    1. Oregon
    2. Indiana
    3. Notre Dame
    4. Penn State
    5. Miami
    6. Texas
    7. Texas A&M
    8. Pittsburgh
    9. Ohio State
    10. BYU
    11. Clemson
    12. SMU
    13. Kansas State
    14. Iowa State
    15. Tennessee
    16. Georgia
    17. LSU
    18. Alabama
    19. Colorado
    20. Army
    21. Virginia Tech
    22. Ole Miss
    23. Boise State
    24. Washington State
    25. Tulane
    #26 - #40
    1. Memphis
    2. Illinois
    3. Minnesota
    4. Louisville
    5. Vanderbilt
    6. Navy
    7. Arkansas
    8. Western Kentucky
    9. Missouri
    10. Wisconsin
    11. Cincinnati
    12. Iowa
    13. Michigan
    14. Florida
    15. Nebraska
    And the rest.
    1. South Carolina
    2. Syracuse
    3. Arizona State
    4. Louisiana
    5. TCU
    6. Duke
    7. UNLV
    8. Old Dominion
    9. James Madison
    10. Baylor
    11. Miami (OH)
    12. Georgia Southern
    13. Washington
    14. Sam Houston
    15. USC
    16. Fresno State
    17. Texas Tech
    18. Georgia Tech
    19. UConn
    20. Liberty
    21. North Carolina
    22. West Virginia
    23. Jacksonville State
    24. Wake Forest
    25. UL Monroe
    26. Ohio
    27. Michigan State
    28. Colorado State
    29. California
    30. Texas State
    31. Western Michigan
    32. Marshall
    33. North Texas
    34. Boston College
    35. South Alabama
    36. NC State
    37. Maryland
    38. Oklahoma
    39. Auburn
    40. Toledo
    41. Virginia
    42. Houston
    43. UCLA
    44. Arkansas State
    45. East Carolina
    46. Bowling Green
    47. UCF
    48. Kentucky
    49. San José State
    50. Coastal Carolina
    51. Utah
    52. San Diego State
    53. Rutgers
    54. Eastern Michigan
    55. Kansas
    56. Northwestern
    57. Buffalo
    58. Oklahoma State
    59. Charlotte
    60. Oregon State
    61. Arizona
    62. South Florida
    63. Northern Illinois
    64. Ball State
    65. App State
    66. Florida State
    67. New Mexico
    68. Hawai’i
    69. Tulsa
    70. Stanford
    71. Temple
    72. Louisiana Tech
    73. Central Michigan
    74. Mississippi State
    75. Nevada
    76. Rice
    77. UTSA
    78. Purdue
    79. Florida Atlantic
    80. Utah State
    81. Akron
    82. Florida International
    83. Georgia State
    84. New Mexico State
    85. Massachusetts
    86. UTEP
    87. Middle Tennessee
    88. UAB
    89. Kennesaw State
    90. Southern Miss
    91. Troy
    92. Wyoming
    93. Air Force
    94. Kent State
  • ToasterOverlord@fanaticus.socialM
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    15 days ago

    My ballot. Computer poll. My Longhorns fall out of the top spot. Womp womp.

    I genuinely checked USC about 5 times over the past couple days to make sure I didn’t input any data incorrectly or screwed up the formula, but it actually has them tied for 9th. It’s super nutty, but everything else checks out. The reason the Trojans are so high is mostly their schedule – they didn’t play any FCS teams, which get heavily docked in my algorithm. Although they’ve lost 4 games, they’re all by 1 score. But with ND at the end of the year, that schedule is just brutal. It’s like they’re trying to get Lincoln Riley fired.

    Full ranking:
    Rank Change Team Record Points
    1 +1 Notre Dame 7-1 576
    2 -1 Texas 7-1 571
    3 +2 Alabama 6-2 543
    4 +4 Oregon 8-0 521
    5 +1 Indiana 8-0 515
    6 +11 Texas A&M 7-1 482
    7 +3 Ole Miss 6-2 481
    8 +1 Ohio State 6-1 479
    T9 +2 Miami (FL) 8-0 475
    T9 +2 USC 4-4 475
    11 +3 BYU 8-0 467
    12 -9 Clemson 6-1 461
    13 -9 Georgia 6-1 459
    14 +2 Virginia Tech 5-3 457
    15 - SMU 7-1 453
    16 +6 Penn State 7-0 449
    17 -10 Tennessee 6-1 445
    18 +1 LSU 6-2 426
    19 +1 Georgia Tech 5-4 424
    20 +8 Colorado 6-2 420
    21 +5 Kansas State 7-1 419
    22 +17 Arkansas 5-3 415
    23 +4 Vanderbilt 5-3 411
    24 +11 Minnesota 5-3 409
    25 +5 JMU 6-2 408
    26 -2 Wisconsin 5-3 407
    27 -2 UNLV 6-2 404
    28 -15 Iowa State 7-0 401
    T29 - Cincinnati 5-3 400
    T29 +12 Iowa 5-3 400
    31 +3 Tulane 6-2 392
    32 +12 California 4-4 390
    T33 +3 Louisville 5-3 389
    T33 -15 South Carolina 4-3 389
    T35 -15 Army 7-0 385
    T35 +4 Michigan 5-3 385
    37 -6 Kentucky 3-5 382
    38 +24 Pittsburgh 7-0 378
    39 -16 Arizona State 5-2 375
    40 +13 Baylor 4-4 374
    41 - Duke 6-2 373
    42 +2 Utah 4-4 372
    T43 -11 Illinois 6-2 369
    T43 -5 Washington 4-4 369
    45 +20 Miami (OH) 4-4 366
    46 - Boston College 4-4 365
    T47 - Washington State 7-1 364
    T47 -15 Missouri 6-2 364
    T47 +5 Nebraska 5-3 364
    T47 +7 Kansas 2-6 364
    51 +4 TCU 5-3 362
    52 -3 Memphis 7-1 360
    T53 -4 Northern Illinois 4-4 358
    T53 +27 North Carolina 4-4 358
    55 -4 Oklahoma 4-4 357
    56 +2 Sam Houston 6-2 354
    T57 +6 Texas Tech 5-3 351
    T57 +17 Auburn 3-5 351
    59 +1 Connecticut 5-3 350
    60 +11 Old Dominion 4-4 348
    61 -14 Northwestern 3-5 346
    62 +9 Jacksonville State 4-3 344
    63 +3 Boise State 6-1 342
    64 +14 West Virginia 4-4 339
    T65 -6 Toledo 5-3 333
    T65 -5 Maryland 4-4 333
    T67 +13 Bowling Green 4-4 332
    T67 +3 Oklahoma State 3-5 332
    69 -33 Florida 4-3 331
    70 -3 UCF 3-5 329
    71 +17 South Alabama 4-4 327
    72 -16 Navy 6-1 325
    T73 -6 Rutgers 4-4 324
    T73 +6 Arizona 3-5 324
    75 -32 Texas State 4-3 322
    T76 -13 Virginia 4-4 321
    T76 +7 Michigan State 4-4 321
    78 +8 Houston 3-5 319
    79 +11 Fresno State 5-3 317
    80 +13 Georgia Southern 5-3 313
    T81 -25 Louisiana 6-1 310
    T81 +1 UNT 5-3 310
    T81 -8 Nevada 3-6 310
    84 -9 San Jose State 5-3 308
    T85 -8 Syracuse 5-2 307
    T85 +10 Ohio 5-3 307
    87 -3 Florida State 1-7 303
    T88 +2 Eastern Michigan 5-3 299
    T88 +10 Western Michigan 5-3 299
    90 -23 Western Kentucky 5-2 292
    91 +8 Wake Forest 4-4 288
    T92 -19 NC State 4-4 284
    T92 -7 Oregon State 4-4 284
    T92 +1 FIU 2-6 284
    95 +7 ECU 4-4 282
    T96 +1 Colorado State 5-3 273
    T96 +7 New Mexico 3-5 273
    98 +3 Louisiana Tech 3-4 269
    99 -13 UCLA 2-5 266
    100 -11 Marshall 4-3 260
    101 +5 Arkansas State 5-3 259
    102 -6 Buffalo 4-4 257
    T103 -11 Coastal Carolina 4-3 248
    T103 +6 UTSA 3-5 248
    105 -5 Mississippi State 1-7 245
    106 +5 Liberty 5-1 242
    T107 +5 Charlotte 3-5 241
    T107 +9 Stanford 2-6 241
    109 +3 Rice 2-6 240
    110 +4 Troy 1-7 239
    111 +8 Hawaii 3-5 238
    112 -5 UL Monroe 5-2 235
    T113 +2 San Diego State 3-4 234
    T113 -5 Temple 2-6 234
    115 -11 Central Michigan 3-5 233
    116 +1 Wyoming 1-7 228
    117 +1 Ball State 3-5 224
    118 +1 UTEP 1-7 222
    119 -15 FAU 2-5 221
    120 +2 Georgia State 2-5 219
    121 +2 Tulsa 3-5 210
    122 -13 USF 3-4 206
    123 +2 Utah State 2-6 205
    T124 +8 Appalachian State 3-4 189
    T124 +7 Akron 2-6 189
    126 +1 Southern Mississippi 1-7 186
    127 -8 Air Force 1-6 182
    128 -4 Massachusetts 2-6 179
    129 +1 Middle Tennessee 2-6 175
    130 +3 Kennesaw State 1-6 171
    131 -5 New Mexico State 2-5 157
    132 -4 Purdue 1-6 153
    133 -4 UAB 1-6 151
    134 - Kent State 0-8 144
    • MaroonMage@lemmy.world
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      14 days ago

      Your computer usually isn’t very kind to my Texas A&M Aggies…glad to see it’s softening up on them some.

      If the Longhorns and the Aggies both make it to Thanksgiving with only one loss, the hype is going to be unreal.

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        14 days ago

        Oh I feel like it always places A&M too high (even trying to compensate for the Burnt Orange Bias), but this season it feels right. I’m surprised your computer has y’all as low as 12th – although that is a very A&M number.

        The hype for that game was always going to be off the charts, but I really hope we both run the table getting there to up the ante. It also becomes a de facto play-in game to the SECCCG. It would be awesome if that game could be a rematch, although unfortunately one of the teams will likely be Georgia. :/ There is good rematch potential in the playoff though. Salivating at the idea of beating A&M twice in one season…

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    14 days ago

    Computer poll, resume ranking. Ohio State/Penn State gonna make things interesting this weekend. Also, Liberty fell 41 rankings with their loss to the Kennesaw Hoots, which is a huge change this late in the season.

    1. Oregon (1) | 8 - 0 | LW: 1 ( - )
    2. Penn State (5.35) | 7 - 0 | LW: 2 ( - )
    3. Ohio State (7.77) | 6 - 1 | LW: 6 (+3)
    4. Miami (9.96) | 8 - 0 | LW: 5 (+1)
    5. BYU (11.47) | 8 - 0 | LW: 4 (-1)
    6. Notre Dame (11.7) | 7 - 1 | LW: 9 (+3)
    7. Iowa State (11.82) | 7 - 0 | LW: 8 (+1)
    8. Indiana (13.1) | 8 - 0 | LW: 3 (-5)
    9. Pittsburgh (13.56) | 7 - 0 | LW: 13 (+4)
    10. Texas (13.65) | 7 - 1 | LW: 7 (-3)
    11. Alabama (14.88) | 6 - 2 | LW: 11 ( - )
    12. Texas A&M (16.56) | 7 - 1 | LW: 16 (+4)
    13. Georgia (18.77) | 6 - 1 | LW: 10 (-3)
    14. Boise State (20.02) | 6 - 1 | LW: 19 (+5)
    15. Kansas State (20.68) | 7 - 1 | LW: 12 (-3)
    16. SMU (22.52) | 7 - 1 | LW: 18 (+2)
    17. Clemson (22.97) | 6 - 1 | LW: 14 (-3)
    18. Tennessee (25.57) | 6 - 1 | LW: 20 (+2)
    19. Washington State (28.2) | 7 - 1 | LW: 21 (+2)
    20. LSU (30.75) | 6 - 2 | LW: 17 (-3)
    21. Army (31.71) | 7 - 0 | LW: 22 (+1)
    22. Ole Miss (35.05) | 6 - 2 | LW: 27 (+5)
    23. Colorado (35.77) | 6 - 2 | LW: 32 (+9)
    24. Navy (37.05) | 6 - 1 | LW: 15 (-9)
    25. Illinois (37.16) | 6 - 2 | LW: 23 (-2)