I’ve been looking for a new job as a software developer. The huge majority of job listings I see in my area are hybrid or remote. I just had an introductory phone call with Vizio (which didn’t specify the location type in the job listing). The recruiter told me that the job was fully on-site, which I told her was a deal breaker for me.

It makes me wonder how many other people back out after hearing that the job is on-site. And it makes me wonder why this wasn’t specified in the job description. I assume most people only want hybrid or remote jobs these days, right?

Anyways I was just wondering how many of you guys apply for on-site IT jobs? Hybrid is so much better, I don’t know why people would apply for on-site jobs unless they have no other options.

  • spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I work with a few who prefer the office over work from home. I think they need a way to escape the house/wife/kids and the office is the only quiet place they have to work.

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      3 months ago

      I work with a few who prefer the office over work from home.

      It does allow for a more clean break between work and non-work mindset.

      I find it helps maintain a more healthy work-life balance.

      Plus, I work on hardware, so it’s not like I can do that remotely most of the time anyway.

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        3 months ago

        I dont know if I agree with the work life balance.

        Shower, groom, dress and commute starting at 6.30am, work 8.30–5.30 and commute to 6.30/7

        or work 8.45-5.15ish and maybe spend an extra hour or two coupla times a week?

        Huge difference.

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          3 months ago

          I think I may be the only person on the face of the earth with no preference on this. My commute is immaterial, the office about 2k away, working from home is kind of a drag but I don’t have to get dressed and can keep the household going (which is part of why it’s a drag) online meetings suck even more than in person meetings, otherwise fine to work remotely. So when we were working from home, I was fine with it, then hybrid I thought would be the worst of all, no, it was fine. Now they say come in at least 3 days, I am going to put away the home workstation and just work at the office, reclaim the space at home, that’s fine too. It’s pretty much the same job either way.

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      3 months ago

      I have only ever worked on-site jobs, so I am very used to it. The main plus for me is interacting with my co-workers. You run into the occasional jerk or someone having a bad day, but usually it is a great way to learn new things and gain different perspectives.

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    My job I’m classified as remote. And I like it that way. Recently they have decided that a bunch of people even if remote will now have to come on site at least hybrid. For “collaboration”. I even noted that in my employment contract I had in there that I was to work from home, to which HR said that they really don’t care.

    My last year-end review was stellar. Top marks, praises from multiple departments, even got a promotion.

    But I happen to live to close to a location, so there’s ‘simply nothing that can be done’. So I’ve already started looking for different work.

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    3 months ago

    IT guy here, I absolutely hate working from home, I want separation between my work life and my home life.

    I need that to change my brain from home mode to work mode.

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    3 months ago

    My ask is 4x salary for in office.

    It’s usually met with “Well, that’s not going to happen…”

    To which I reply “I know, right?”

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      My ask is

      You mean ‘request’, right? You need to leave the used-car-salesbro jargon at the lot, man.

      But I run a surcharge as well, and it’s prohibitive for some. It’s about 40% more for the first day in the office, and 20% more for each day-per-week after that, to 120% surcharge at most. I put the interview answers in the spreadsheet, and when they ask about Salary I tell them how it’s based on the per-person rent of a 2-bedroom condo closest to the work location and a percentage surcharge or rebate based on the job attributes. Either that’s too offbeat or detailed for them, and they sometimes get sad for one or both of those reasons.

      Software update policy, dress code (there’s a difference between ‘casual’ and ‘business casual’), a tax for Teams or Office or Outlook, mandatory standby, forced field work, 9x9 schedule, etc. I don’t have a tax for ‘distance from nearest commuter train station’ but it’s coming.

      Absolute.com (security not vodka) was down to $85k, though, as it was so awesome. But ohhh, if MDA or the BoC had bit, it would’ve been nearly $500k as they had SO many problems.

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        No, I mean “my ask.”

        Not jargon. Recognized by the Oxford advanced learner’s dictionary. Perhaps your understanding of English is not “advanced”.

        It is what I am asking. It is my ask.

        What an absurdly pointless hair to attempt to split. It’d be one thing if you were being inquisitive, but you’re out here just confidently incorrecting people lmao.

        Stay in school, kiddo.

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    3 months ago

    You’re talking specifically about software based IT jobs.

    Those of us who deal with the hardware have always been and will always be on-site and hands on.

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    3 months ago

    I might get down voted, but even for software dev, not all jobs can be done remotely. Software may need to interact with hardware, which requires to be on site. I am all in for hybrid or remote work, but totally see why some jobs require to be “on site”

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      3 months ago

      I am an embedded developer, I take the HW from office to bring at home, in the basement I have my “home office” with benches, soldering station, oscilloscope, etc so I can fully develop here. Working on a kitchen corner table would not be doable, true

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    3 months ago

    We had an IT person quit this year because we transitioned to fully remote after they closed down the office in December 2020. He couldn’t handle working from home.

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    3 months ago

    From what I’ve heard, most people that are for in office work like having the separation between work and home.

    That being said, I think most folks want remote work or at least remote hybrid. It just makes more sense especially for me. I live far from my office (140 mile drive roundtrip), and working 3 days a week from home has been a god send.

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      3 months ago

      I did notice that the only people not opting for WFH/hybrid at my last job were all the married-with-kids types who hated being around their family and used work as an escape. It was really sad to see lol

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        There’s a psychological stress with work that can take some time to slough off.

        Some people don’t want to log out of work and be grumpy or distracted during family time.

        That being said having a process or system as a habit to denote work/home is a good alternative.

        A 10 minute walk, a change of clothes, or some song you play, anything that creates a mental delineation. So the annoyance from that way too long meeting asking why something isn’t done (4 hours a day giving out status updates isn’t helping) doesn’t come out on the family.

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        Not wanting to work in a crowded home has nothing to do with disliking your family. Kids are loud. They run around the house. They watch TV with the volume set too high. They have excited calls with their friends. Many home builders skimp on noise insulation for interior walls.

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        3 months ago

        That’s understandable but like… you could go to a coffee shop or literally rent office space nearby to where you live - it doesn’t have to be all one way or the other. Anyway, if they truly do enjoy being surrounded by people then I don’t want to knock their totally valid preferences, just to say that there are other ways.

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    3 months ago

    My dad is the only human being I know that likes his on-site IT job, but that’s probably because he’s getting away from the miserable woman he married for a few hours a day.

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    I hope to never go back to office. Remote has been a life changer. I have time to keep weeds out of my garden. The flexibility to have workers at my house whenever they are available. The freedom to set up my desk how I like it. Time to eat breakfast. I don’t get headaches every day any more from the lighting. I get to go outside during breaks for some sunshine time. I’m here when the kids come home.

    My work is more focused. No more road stress. I may be able to move to a place I can tolerate. No more wearing makeup that is bad for my skin. No more having to pack a lunch. My life is infinitely better without having to commute.

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    3 months ago

    About a third of the developers in my office choose to come into the office every day because they do not have a home office setup or they prefer to have that separation between work and home.