Egyptian and US mediators report signs of compromise, but many analysts remain pessimistic

Egyptian and US mediators have reported signs of compromise in recent days and Egyptian state news channel Al-Qahera said on Saturday that a consensus had been reached in the indirect talks over many of the disputed points but gave no further details. However, many analysts remain pessimistic after five months of stop-start talks that have frequently broken down

  • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    4 months ago

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

    Short answer, it’s complicated because the last time Palestine had an election this is who the Palestinian people voted for. But there also hasn’t been an election like that in a very long time

    Also, Israel and the US didn’t like their choice, hence the PA which is considered highly corrupt and propped up by Israel and the US.

    So for better or Elmore, Hamas is who the Palestinian people voted for (at one point). Their designation as a terrorist organization is largely a western government thing. The UN does not recognize Hamas as a terrorist organization.

    • cygnus@lemmy.caEnglish
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      4 months ago

      This is true, but it seems to me like an Italy in WW2 kind of situation (sorry for all the WW2 parallels, folks) where a government was voted in but overstayed its welcome, to put it mildly.

      • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        4 months ago

        You are projecting how you’d like to interpret things into a situation where the facts on the ground simply don’t agree with you.

        Hamas has around 90% approval in Gaza:

        https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-palestinians-opinion-poll-wartime-views-a0baade915619cd070b5393844bc4514

        I agree with the sentiment and would love to see free and fair democratic elections in Palestine. But if public sentiment if the governed is what we’re going by, then both the Republican and Democratic party in the US are less legitimate than Hamas. Weird metaphor but there it is. If elections were tomorrow, Hamas would win in a landslide. It’s part of the reason why Israel and the US have prevented elections for as long as they have.

        • betheydocrime@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          4 months ago

          Hamas has around 90% approval in Gaza:

          https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-palestinians-opinion-poll-wartime-views-a0baade915619cd070b5393844bc4514

          I’m sorry, but that’s not what the article says. 90% of respondents think Abbas should resign, but that is separate from “approval”. FTA:

          Despite the devastation, 57% of respondents in Gaza and 82% in the West Bank believe Hamas was correct in launching the October attack, the poll indicated. A large majority believed Hamas’ claims that it acted to defend a major Islamic shrine in Jerusalem against Jewish extremists and win the release of Palestinian prisoners. Only 10% said they believed Hamas has committed war crimes, with a large majority saying they did not see videos showing the militants committing atrocities.

          • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            4 months ago

            Sorry about that, you are correct.

            Regardless, the article does show significant support for Hamas among the Palestinian people.

            The Palestinian people are faced with the option of a corrupt puppet government obviously controlled by Israel and the US, or an extreme, basically terrorist but at least they’ll fight for you Hamas.

            if your goal is survival who do you pick?

            • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              4 months ago

              Fighting against an Apartheid, truly the most “extreme” people lmao.

              Not fighting means you’re guaranteed to be fully Genocided and Ethnically Cleansed. As we can see in the West Bank. The only option left for Palestinians is to fight, or roll over and die.