The main reasons I’ve seen from vegans for not eating meat seem to be all about the morality of eating a sentient animal, the practices of the modern meat industry, and the environmental impact of it. And don’t have anything to do with the taste of meat.

Since lab-grown meat doesn’t cause animal suffering, and assuming mass production is environmentally friendly, would you consider going back to eating meat if it were the lab-grown kind?

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    24 days ago

    It would depend how this lab grown meat affects the environment or who produces it, how, what price it is… I’m not opposed to it, just need to see the details.

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      25 days ago

      but people regularly think I’m 10 years younger than I am.

      This is the same kind of magical thinking that leads some vegans to believe that they don’t produce any body odor, or that they can cure cancer through diet. I eat meat, I’m nearing 50, I’m physically healthy, and regularly mistaken for being in my 30s. The idea that vegan = healthy diet is, well, pretty obviously nonsense, since Oreos are vegan and still terrible for you.

      A lot of aging is just genetics.

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    As a vegan, I would not eat lab grown meat.

    It’s mainly a texture/concept thing, my food needs to be safe from disembodied muscle, fat, skin, cartilage, bone, minced meat containing the combined flesh of thousands of raped and tortured carcasses, the faecal matter and bacterial colonies all meat is covered with, and the horrifying possibility of meat containing hidden cysts full of pus, bits of hair, teeth, genitals, eyeballs, parasites, tumours, zoonotic diseases, prions, etc.

    Lab grown flesh would hopefully be exponentially cleaner, and far less problematic than the current rape torture factories and abattoir system, but I will never be able to thematically seperate labgrown meat from what meat currently is, not enough to be able to put it in my mouth and chew it anyway.

    Also, all sentient life (as we know it) is made of flesh. Lab growing billions of disembodied chunks from a handful of sentient animals? There is still deep horror to this. Granted it’s on a completely different scale to the current system of livestock atrocities, but it’s still horrifying none the less.

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      Oh, better to eat only broccoli. In the third world, with poop of human cow pig. With a lot of antibiotics, pesticides and other chemicals.

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        Did I really trigger you so badly that your feeble hormone addled carivore brain tried to get you to think about eating broccoli?

        Wow. New vegan power unlocked.

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          Just fyi, when I’m trying to stem the flow of vegan hate I see online, I find way, way, way more success in not being an obnoxious asshole. It’s a stupid trend, bashing and shitting all over vegans and vegetarians saying the habit is a good thing. Don’t make it harder for everyone else to get on board with this kind of shit.

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                24 days ago

                So you think vegans should passively put up with bullshit from trolls and never poke fun back? Why?

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                  Are you-

                  Um. I don’t know what’s even happening here. How do you not get what I’m saying.

                  Just fyi, when I’m trying to stem the flow of vegan hate I see online, I find way, way, way more success in not being an obnoxious asshole.

                  Or put another way: “it’s best when trying to make sure not everyone hates a good cause, to not be a total dick.” (Read: you’re being a total dick and not helping your cause.)

                  It’s a stupid trend, bashing and shitting all over vegans and vegetarians saying the habit is a good thing.

                  “I understand it’s a stupid trend that people on the internet hate vegans and anyone speaking positively about veganism/vegetarianism.”

                  Don’t make it harder for everyone else to get on board with this kind of shit.

                  “You’re making sticking up for veganism/vegans much harder by, as mentioned before, being a dick.”

                  Get it now?

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    24 days ago

    I’d definitely eat it, especially over ecosystem-destroying meats and dirty meats. Especially if they can work on the price. I’d like to see more farmlands and public lands reforested and taken back to nature.

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    I would eat it, but I would do so on rare occasions in the same way I might have a drink with friends once a month. I became vegetarian for health reasons in addition to the reasons listed by OP and I have grown to really enjoy meat-free eating, so I don’t really miss it but would view it as a treat best enjoyed sparingly.

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    No, I think it’s a good idea but I’m fine with plant based alts. I think it’s a lot better than having to kill animals for food but still seems like a lot of extr steps when you can just eat plants and stuff mad from plants without requiring a biological reactor, and lab. I would also assume that the process requires at least some more energy or resorces than regular food processing methods. So it wouldn’t win any points on that front. I was raised vegan for context, so I’ve never actually tasted real meat and don’t see any reason to try it now, lab grown or not.

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        I assume they meant meat in general. Supposed lab-grown meat aims to be a similar experience, the given answer is self-explanatory.

        Btw, you can get lab-grown meat in a reastaurant in Singapore iirc.

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        Given that the point of lab grown meat is to stand in for butchered meat, I think it’s fair to assume they’ll target the same taste/texture. Honestly, what’s even the point of the discussion without that premise baked in?

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        I think they mean they don’t like the taste/texture of meat already so why would they go over to lab grown.

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    Not vegan but I’d wager most wouldn’t, not even because of the ethics stuff everyone memes about

    Breaking down meats takes an energy investment that breaking plants down doesn’t. So people who are used to a low meat or meatless diet aren’t recommended to go full steam on some carnitas first time they feel like getting back on the red and pink stuff.

    Literally it causes heavy fatigue and tiredness untill they re-adjust to the energy investment, and if you’re already feeling fine just not eating meat then what exactly would be the point of putting yourself through that?

    And I’m saying this as a total beef and pork addict, my dad’s pescatarian so I got to learn about sudden diet shift health effects from his doctor when he first went for the fishes.

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    I would not east lab grown meat. At this point meat grosses me out, and vegan protein is already very tasty.

    I think lab grown meat mostly appeals to meat eaters who recognise that eating meat is wrong but don’t have the discipline to go vegetarian/vegan.

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    i’m not a vegan or vegetarian, but from my experience with various plant-based proteins i honestly just do not see the point

    we already have perfectly affordable vegan proteins that, while not identical to meat or even necessarily that close, are absolutely as satisfying to chew on and very tasty.

    Really, all you need is a chunk of mostly pure protein of any kind and it’s doubtful people are going to much notice the difference if it’s part of a dish and they aren’t given a chance to study the protein in detail.
    The only thing you’d really need lab-grown meat for is steaks, which are overrated anyways and like… god eating steak is such a violently bougie thing! The shelves with ground meat here are hilarious because the cheaper ground pork is constantly completely sold out while the ground beef is barely even touched, so i doubt people would even notice the disappearance of the steak that costs 6 times as much…

    Very relevant video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR8M4zARBXY

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    I would not trust anyone who tells me it’s lab grown. I’ve had so many restaurants and people lie to me that someone ws vegan, out of malice and out of incompetence, that I just would not believe that a burger was “lab grown” instead of made with cheap meat leftovers.

    If somehow I I could assure that it was made without animals being hurt, maybe. Meat is unhealthy so I would still mostly avoid it.

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      How is free range grown-up meat bad for health?
      Everything within limits and maybe not the cheapest drug filled meat?

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        The human body is an amagin versatile machine. But the best diet for health seems to be plant based whole foods. Meat should be a very small part of your diet. It has been linked to all main causes of death like heart disease, diabetes, Alzheimers…

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    I don’t think so, it doesn’t sound very appealing. I’m very used to going without meat, and tofu satisfies me quite well, or seitan. Being vegan to me is getting away from the idea that you need a lump of something fleshy on your plate to be satisfied.

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      Seems like a bold assertion, saying your food tastes better than something that doesn’t exist yet, and so cannot be compared.

      I mean, you are probably right, but you can’t know how dinosaur meat or whatever genetically engineered nonexistent animal meat tastes like.

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        The point of lab meat is to taste like dead animals. I know what dead animals taste like, I ate them for 28 years.