• umbrella@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    if we want a breather we gotta upend the system.

    not keep struggling with it.

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      Let me count the ways that upending the system isn’t going to happen anytime soon.

      For the system to be upended in a meaningful way first means you’ve got an organized cadre in place. Savvy political operators who can make things happen.

      The Left failed to get past the DNC twice with a popular candidate. The idea that the Left could get past the US Army is ridiculous.

      Next, let’s look at what ‘upending the system’ would actually look like. Look at the hyperinflation in Germany after WW1. Or the Depression. Or maybe just the riots of the 1960s. Life isn’t a video game, and when the system fails the most vulnerable people are the ones who suffer the most.

      Finally, do you really think that companies like Blackwater are just going to step aside and let themselves be swept away?

      If the system goes down, it will be replaced by something much uglier.

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        2 days ago

        none of the examples you came up with have anything to do with a worker revolution. yes, silly, it does takes time. and no, democrats have never been leftists.

        do you have an actual idea to save the rest of that broken democracy? because its already being replaced with something uglier. you seem to think fascism is gonna stop itself?

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          The Left failed to get past the DNC twice with a popular candidate. The idea that the Left could get past the US Army is ridiculous.

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            2 days ago

            cmon, tell me what your idea is for fixing the system that doesnt involve begging the right wing for a candidate nomination.

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              You’d rather face the US Army then vote for someone endorsed by Barack Obama and Bernie Sanders.

              Please read some history. Back in the day, Frederick Douglas campaigned for candidates who couldn’t promise to end slavery.

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                23 hours ago

                im sure you will have plenty of fascists to root for in 2028, no worries 😂

                did the whitewashed history you learned in school include all the genociding you have been doing this last couple of centuries?