• TootSweet@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    The argument that I found convincing until roughly a couple of days after the debate was:

    • Biden’s not as bad as Trump.
    • We want anyone who’s not as bad as Trump who can get elected to be the Democratic nominee.
    • It’s unlikely anyone other than Biden could win the general election with the disadvantage of being so late to the campaigning game as Biden exiting the race for Democratic nominee now would give them.
    • And, yes, Kamala is the presumptive replacement if Biden drops out, but it’s not like she’s not going to have the above-mentioned disadvantage at all. Just maybe less than a random nobody or even anyone well-known and popular on the Democratic side if they don’t have VP experience.

    Now, I think Biden’s fucked his own position badly enough that he’s less likely to win the general election than Kamala.

  • Lexi Sneptaur@pawb.social
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    28 days ago

    In short:

    • He has the incumbent advantage
    • He has largely done a good job so far as president compared to presidents that came before him in recent history
    • His cabinet has a progressive lean
    • Kamala Harris is a pretty decent VP
    • A Biden victory could result in further repairing our court system including changing the Supreme Court
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    28 days ago

    He has a record of winning primaries, which every other candidate has not.

    He also has a 100% win rate when running against Trump.

    Also, presidents don’t usually make their own decisions, they have a team of experts for their decisions. No matter if you’re 80+ he’s demonstrated he can listen and make appropriate decisions.

    Also, all the talk about picking a new candidate can be summed up with “of course we should replace Biden with the universally accepted replacement list of 11+ candidates

    So we can’t really come to an agreement of who else it should be, and it seems like Biden has all that is needed. It ain’t broke, it’s just old. And if my 2003 Honda accord is anything to go by, some old things work just fine.

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      28 days ago

      He also has a 100% win rate when running against Trump.

      has it happened more than once?

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        You only need 1/1 win to have a 100% success rate. Statistics can be deceiving.

        But since every other candidate has never ran against Trump, that puts them at 0% and anything times 0 is 0, so Biden is infinitely more likely to beat Trump than any other candidate.

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    28 days ago

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1809311013839466846.html

    I think this article sums it up well. In short, when the primary actual problem most left wing voters have with him is the issue the media largely ignores in favor of manufactured controversies like his age or his son missing a checkbox in n a government form, it is absurd to think that any other candidate would not quickly have similar controversies made up.

  • Hikermick@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    He’s not Trump.

    In all seriousness, The presidency is not a gameshow, decisions don’t have to be made before the buzzer. When you vote for anyone you are actually voting for a team of people not a single individual.
    You are voting for ideas you want advanced not just a person. Also, He’s not Trump

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      27 days ago

      What is the case in favor of Joe Biden staying in the race/being the Democrat candidate?

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        He’s the incumbent. And that’s… Well… That’s the largest reason.

        The DNC learned a hard lesson when they split the vote in the 1980 election. Jimmy Carter (the incumbent at the time) was running in the primaries against Ted Kennedy. Carter was relatively moderate, while Kennedy was more liberal and wanted to move the party further left.

        Carter and Kennedy were pretty closely tied, but Carter actually lost a few primaries. And when Kennedy refused to concede, the party was split. And since the US uses First-Past-The-Post voting, this meant both democrat candidates were weakened by the split vote and Ronald Reagan won the election instead.

        So out of fear of splitting the vote, the DNC doesn’t run primaries against an incumbent candidate.

        As for other reasons, he has actually been fairly successful as a president. He doesn’t have the stage appeal of a younger candidate, but he has been largely successful in passing legislation that he wanted to pass. Throwback to when Nixon “lost” a debate against JFK, because televisions were still new and Nixon didn’t understand the importance of looking nice. Nixon was sweaty and slovenly, while JFK was polished and clean… So the public perceived JFK as winning the debate, simply because he looked more presidential.

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    He’s not Trump.

    In all seriousness, The presidency is not a gameshow, decisions don’t have to be made before the buzzer. When vote for anyone you are actually voting for a team of people not a single individual.
    You are voting for ideas you want advanced not just a person. Also, He’s not Trump